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Our local branches of Christies have been very helpful.  I discussed
with one of them the possibility of an  e-mail mailing list.  They were
concerned about confidentiality for subscribers but this is hardly a
problem for libraries and could be solved by giving people the choice to
be on the list or not.

In the meantime I am told they are investigating.

However, I think we need to keep up the pressure.

A letter from a number of ARLIS organisations world-wide would certainly
carry more weight than individual complaints.

In the meantime they have offered to fax results on request - so keep
requesting!  The e-mail list solution has got to be a lot less work than
sending out hundreds of faxes - for both sides.

Margaret

J. Margaret Shaw
Chief Librarian
National Gallery of Australia
Research Library
GPO Box 1150
Canberra  ACT  2601

Telephone: 61-(0)2 6240 6532
Facsimile:  61-(0)2 6273 2155
E-Mail:  [log in to unmask]
url:  www.nga.gov.au   [under Research]

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>From:  Jeri Byrne[SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
>Sent:  Friday, 9 July 1999 12:53
>To:    [log in to unmask]
>Subject:       Re: Auction sale bid lists
>
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>Dear ARLIS/NA:
>From the responses to the auction results situation which have been appearing
>on
>the list/serve, I propose that the letter stating objections to the new
>non-reporting system comes from the national level and swiftly.  I'm sure
>Christie's cares a whole lot more about its bottom line than it does about a
>few
>scattered complaints from arts librarians - but a national organization's
>concerns might get some action. I happen to be pessimistic about this matter.
>Jeri Byrne\Beverly Hills PL Fine Arts
>
>>>> "Nurse, Sue" <[log in to unmask]> 07/07 5:07 AM >>>
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>Dear List,
>
>I too am having a difficult time with the auction catalogue situation.  I
>have been unsuccessful in sending faxes to the fax number from here.  Also,
>what do you do for all the auctions that take place in locations other than
>New York and London (the only ones on the Web?  Any help would be
>appreciated and if there is a general letter to Christies/Sothebey, count me
>in.  This whole process is very time consuming.
>
>Susan Nurse
>Assistant Librarian
>Memorial Art Gallery
>500 University Ave.
>Rochester, NY  14607
>[log in to unmask]
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Margaret Shaw [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
>> Sent: Friday, July 02, 1999 8:04 AM
>> To:   [log in to unmask]
>> Subject:      Re: Auction sale bid lists
>>
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>> I agree.  We all seem to be getting little help singly but together we
>> may get somewhere.
>>
>> Margaret
>>
>> J. Margaret Shaw
>> Chief Librarian
>> National Gallery of Australia Research Library
>> GPO Box 1150
>> Canberra ACT 2601
>> Australia
>>
>> Telephone: 61-(0)2-6240 6532
>> Fax:            61-(0)2-6273 2155
>>
>> E-Mail:        [log in to unmask]  [work]
>>                       [log in to unmask]  [home]
>> url:                 http://www.nga.gov.au      [under Research]
>>
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>> >From:  Stephanie Sigala[SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
>> >Sent:  Thursday, 1 July 1999 4:18
>> >To:    [log in to unmask]
>> >Subject:       Re: Auction sale bid lists
>> >
>> >----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>> >Dear Margaret and other seekers of price lists:
>> >
>> >We in St. Louis are also very dissatisfied with the new price list
>> regime.
>> >Perhaps there is a critical mass of unhappy art librarians who could
>> write
>> >a joint letter to Sotheby's and Christie's in protest. I would be happy
>> to
>> >sign on.
>> >
>> >Stephanie Sigala
>> >
>> >************************=2A***************
>> >Stephanie C. Sigala
>> >Head Librarian, Richardson Library
>> >The Saint Louis Art Museum
>> >1 Fine Arts Drive, Forest Park
>> >St. Louis, MO 63110-1380
>> >314-721-0072 x 252
>> >314-721-6172 (fax)
>> >co-Editor, Art Documentation
>> >
>> >----------
>> >From: Margaret Shaw <[log in to unmask]>
>> >To: [log in to unmask]
>> >Subject: Auction sale bid lists
>> >Date: Monday, June 28, 1999 8:26 PM
>> >
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>> >Has anyone come up with a really satisfactory solution to the problem of
>> >auction sale bid lists which are published on the web rather than being
>> >circulated?    We find that it takes a considerable amount of extra time
>> >to locate and print the lists c.f. filing the paper version.
>> >
>> >Was anyone aware of any market research done before this change was
>> >introduced?
>> >
>> >It seems to me that we are paying the same amount [quite a considerable
>> >amount of money] for a reduced service which demands considerable extra
>> >staff time at our end.
>> >
>> >One possible answer for those who do not necessarily need the results
>> >immediately, would be for them to be loaded in a way which would make
>> >batching of downloading possible, instead of the present need to go in
>> >and download each list individually.
>> >
>> >Alternatively, lists could be e-mailed to subscribers at the same time
>> >as they are loaded on the web.
>> >
>> >No-one seems to have had much luck so far but maybe a joint approach to
>> >Christies would have some effect.
>> >
>> >Ideas anyone?
>> >
>> >Margaret
>> >
>> >
>> >J. Margaret Shaw
>> >Chief Librarian
>> >National Gallery of Australia Research Library
>> >GPO Box 1150
>> >Canberra ACT 2601
>> >Australia
>> >
>> >Telephone: 61-(0)2-6240 6532
>> >Fax:            61-(0)2-6273 2155
>> >
>> >E-Mail:        [log in to unmask]  [work]
>> >                      [log in to unmask]  [home]
>> >url:                 http://www.nga.gov.au      [under Research]
>> >
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