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Dear list members

In Holland we also have trouble in getting price lists from Christie's.
Sotheby is doing rather well. If you are planning to send a letter to
Christie's (and/or other auction houses as well) we will gladly sign that
letter as well. Here "we" means the Netherlands Institute for Art History
(RKD) as well as ARLIS/NL. Perhaps we can manage to write a letter signed by
ARLIS/NA, ARLIS/UK, ARLIS/NL and other art library societies? And why not
also the Art Libraries section of IFLA? That is why I send this message to
the Dutch Arlis (OKBN) as well as to Geert-Jan Koot who is secretary of the
Art Libraries section of IFLA.


Gosem C. Dullaart
Bibliothecaris /Librarian
Rijksbureau voor Kunsthistorische Documentatie RKD/Netherlands Institute for
Art History
P.O. Box 90418
2509 LK Den Haag
Nederland
tel.: +31(70)3339714
fax::+31(70)3339789
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URL:http://www.rkd/nl


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> From:         Sarah Falls[SMTP:<a href="/scripts/wa.exe?LOGON=A3%3Dind9907%26L%3DARLIS-L%26E%3D7BIT%26P%3D172321%26B%3D--%26T%3Dtext%252FplainTEXT%252FPLAIN%3B%2520charset%3DUS-ASCII%26pending%3D" target="_parent" >[log in to unmask]</a>]
> Reply To:     ART LIBRARIES SOCIETY DISCUSSION LIST
> Sent:         vrijdag 9 juli 1999 4:42
> To:   <a href="/scripts/wa.exe?LOGON=A3%3Dind9907%26L%3DARLIS-L%26E%3D7BIT%26P%3D172321%26B%3D--%26T%3Dtext%252FplainTEXT%252FPLAIN%3B%2520charset%3DUS-ASCII%26pending%3D" target="_parent" >[log in to unmask]</a>
> Subject:      Re: Auction sale bid lists
>
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> Hi All:
> A number of people have now written to the list complaining about similar
> problems with Christie's auction results.  In fact we have been through
> two
> rounds of complaint emails in the last couple of months on this list.
> Many
> have agreed to sign a letter of complaint, but I haven't yet heard of
> anyone
> generating this letter. Is anyone in fact organizing a petition or letter
> writing campaign? If so, could you please contact me directly at (
> <a href="/scripts/wa.exe?LOGON=A3%3Dind9907%26L%3DARLIS-L%26E%3D7BIT%26P%3D172321%26B%3D--%26T%3Dtext%252FplainTEXT%252FPLAIN%3B%2520charset%3DUS-ASCII%26pending%3D" target="_parent" >[log in to unmask]</a> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>  ). If nothing
> has
> been organized, would everyone interested in either signing a letter or
> complaint or contributing to a draft please contact me also. I will be
> more
> than happy to serve as an organizer for this out of my sheer frustration
> with Christie's. We need to get something out there immediately to express
> our views and list our various problems with their new "system."
> Thanks for reading,
>
> Sarah E. Falls
> Library Assistant
> Virginia Museum of Fine Arts
> Library
> 2800 Grove Ave.
> Richmond, Va 23221
> (804) 367-0858
>
>
>         -----Original Message-----
>         From:   Nurse, Sue [SMTP:<a href="/scripts/wa.exe?LOGON=A3%3Dind9907%26L%3DARLIS-L%26E%3D7BIT%26P%3D172321%26B%3D--%26T%3Dtext%252FplainTEXT%252FPLAIN%3B%2520charset%3DUS-ASCII%26pending%3D" target="_parent" >[log in to unmask]</a>]
>         Sent:   Wednesday, July 07, 1999 8:07 AM
>         To:     <a href="/scripts/wa.exe?LOGON=A3%3Dind9907%26L%3DARLIS-L%26E%3D7BIT%26P%3D172321%26B%3D--%26T%3Dtext%252FplainTEXT%252FPLAIN%3B%2520charset%3DUS-ASCII%26pending%3D" target="_parent" >[log in to unmask]</a>
>         Subject:        Re: Auction sale bid lists
>         Importance:     High
>
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>         Dear List,
>
>         I too am having a difficult time with the auction catalogue
> situation.  I
>         have been unsuccessful in sending faxes to the fax number from
> here.
> Also,
>         what do you do for all the auctions that take place in locations
> other than
>         New York and London (the only ones on the Web?  Any help would be
>         appreciated and if there is a general letter to
> Christies/Sothebey,
> count me
>         in.  This whole process is very time consuming.
>
>         Susan Nurse
>         Assistant Librarian
>         Memorial Art Gallery
>         500 University Ave.
>         Rochester, NY  14607
>         <a href="/scripts/wa.exe?LOGON=A3%3Dind9907%26L%3DARLIS-L%26E%3D7BIT%26P%3D172321%26B%3D--%26T%3Dtext%252FplainTEXT%252FPLAIN%3B%2520charset%3DUS-ASCII%26pending%3D" target="_parent" >[log in to unmask]</a>
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>         > -----Original Message-----
>         > From: Margaret Shaw [SMTP:<a href="/scripts/wa.exe?LOGON=A3%3Dind9907%26L%3DARLIS-L%26E%3D7BIT%26P%3D172321%26B%3D--%26T%3Dtext%252FplainTEXT%252FPLAIN%3B%2520charset%3DUS-ASCII%26pending%3D" target="_parent" >[log in to unmask]</a>]
>         > Sent: Friday, July 02, 1999 8:04 AM
>         > To:   <a href="/scripts/wa.exe?LOGON=A3%3Dind9907%26L%3DARLIS-L%26E%3D7BIT%26P%3D172321%26B%3D--%26T%3Dtext%252FplainTEXT%252FPLAIN%3B%2520charset%3DUS-ASCII%26pending%3D" target="_parent" >[log in to unmask]</a>
>         > Subject:      Re: Auction sale bid lists
>         >
>         > ----------------------------Original
> message----------------------------
>         > I agree.  We all seem to be getting little help singly but
> together we
>         > may get somewhere.
>         >
>         > Margaret
>         >
>         > J. Margaret Shaw
>         > Chief Librarian
>         > National Gallery of Australia Research Library
>         > GPO Box 1150
>         > Canberra ACT 2601
>         > Australia
>         >
>         > Telephone: 61-(0)2-6240 6532
>         > Fax:            61-(0)2-6273 2155
>         >
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>         > url:                 http://www.nga.gov.au      [under Research]
>         >
>         > >----------
>         > >From:  Stephanie Sigala[SMTP:<a href="/scripts/wa.exe?LOGON=A3%3Dind9907%26L%3DARLIS-L%26E%3D7BIT%26P%3D172321%26B%3D--%26T%3Dtext%252FplainTEXT%252FPLAIN%3B%2520charset%3DUS-ASCII%26pending%3D" target="_parent" >[log in to unmask]</a>]
>         > >Sent:  Thursday, 1 July 1999 4:18
>         > >To:    <a href="/scripts/wa.exe?LOGON=A3%3Dind9907%26L%3DARLIS-L%26E%3D7BIT%26P%3D172321%26B%3D--%26T%3Dtext%252FplainTEXT%252FPLAIN%3B%2520charset%3DUS-ASCII%26pending%3D" target="_parent" >[log in to unmask]</a>
>         > >Subject:       Re: Auction sale bid lists
>         > >
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> message----------------------------
>         > >Dear Margaret and other seekers of price lists:
>         > >
>         > >We in St. Louis are also very dissatisfied with the new price
> list
>         > regime.
>         > >Perhaps there is a critical mass of unhappy art librarians who
> could
>         > write
>         > >a joint letter to Sotheby's and Christie's in protest. I would
> be
> happy
>         > to
>         > >sign on.
>         > >
>         > >Stephanie Sigala
>         > >
>         > >****************************************
>         > >Stephanie C. Sigala
>         > >Head Librarian, Richardson Library
>         > >The Saint Louis Art Museum
>         > >1 Fine Arts Drive, Forest Park
>         > >St. Louis, MO 63110-1380
>         > >314-721-0072 x 252
>         > >314-721-6172 (fax)
>         > >co-Editor, Art Documentation
>         > >
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>         > >From: Margaret Shaw <<a href="/scripts/wa.exe?LOGON=A3%3Dind9907%26L%3DARLIS-L%26E%3D7BIT%26P%3D172321%26B%3D--%26T%3Dtext%252FplainTEXT%252FPLAIN%3B%2520charset%3DUS-ASCII%26pending%3D" target="_parent" >[log in to unmask]</a>>
>         > >To: <a href="/scripts/wa.exe?LOGON=A3%3Dind9907%26L%3DARLIS-L%26E%3D7BIT%26P%3D172321%26B%3D--%26T%3Dtext%252FplainTEXT%252FPLAIN%3B%2520charset%3DUS-ASCII%26pending%3D" target="_parent" >[log in to unmask]</a>
>         > >Subject: Auction sale bid lists
>         > >Date: Monday, June 28, 1999 8:26 PM
>         > >
>         > >----------------------------Original
> message----------------------------
>         > >Has anyone come up with a really satisfactory solution to the
> problem of
>         > >auction sale bid lists which are published on the web rather
> than
> being
>         > >circulated?    We find that it takes a considerable amount of
> extra time
>         > >to locate and print the lists c.f. filing the paper version.
>         > >
>         > >Was anyone aware of any market research done before this change
> was
>         > >introduced?
>         > >
>         > >It seems to me that we are paying the same amount [quite a
> considerable
>         > >amount of money] for a reduced service which demands
> considerable
> extra
>         > >staff time at our end.
>         > >
>         > >One possible answer for those who do not necessarily need the
> results
>         > >immediately, would be for them to be loaded in a way which
> would
> make
>         > >batching of downloading possible, instead of the present need
> to
> go in
>         > >and download each list individually.
>         > >
>         > >Alternatively, lists could be e-mailed to subscribers at the
> same
> time
>         > >as they are loaded on the web.
>         > >
>         > >No-one seems to have had much luck so far but maybe a joint
> approach to
>         > >Christies would have some effect.
>         > >
>         > >Ideas anyone?
>         > >
>         > >Margaret
>         > >
>         > >
>         > >J. Margaret Shaw
>         > >Chief Librarian
>         > >National Gallery of Australia Research Library
>         > >GPO Box 1150
>         > >Canberra ACT 2601
>         > >Australia
>         > >
>         > >Telephone: 61-(0)2-6240 6532
>         > >Fax:            61-(0)2-6273 2155
>         > >
>         > >E-Mail:        <a href="/scripts/wa.exe?LOGON=A3%3Dind9907%26L%3DARLIS-L%26E%3D7BIT%26P%3D172321%26B%3D--%26T%3Dtext%252FplainTEXT%252FPLAIN%3B%2520charset%3DUS-ASCII%26pending%3D" target="_parent" >[log in to unmask]</a>  [work]
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>         > >url:                 http://www.nga.gov.au      [under
> Research]
>         > >
>