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Error - unable to initiate communication with LISTSERV (errno=10061, phase=CONNECT, target=127.0.0.1:2306). The server is probably not started. ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- >----------------------------Original message---------------------------- >------------------ >Does anyone know the name of an ancient Greek sculptor who tortured a child in >order to research facial expressions? Thanks. > >*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+* >-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- >* Barbara E. Reed * * * * * [log in to unmask] * >- Art Librarian - >* Dartmouth College phone 603-646-3831 * >- 6033 Carpenter Hall - >* Hanover NH 03755-3570 fax 603-646-1218 * >-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- >*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+* Dear Barbara: Thanks to Prof. Brunilde Ridgway of our faculty, I have a possible answer to your query about the ancient Greek sculptor who tortured a child, although it's not an exact correspondence. In Ernest Kris' and Otto Kurz's "Legend, Myth, and Magic in the Image of the Artist," (New Haven and London: Yale University Press, 1979) on p.118, there is the following statement: "Parrhasios is reported to have bought an old man, one of the Olynthian prisoners sold at auction by Philip of Macedon, and to have tortured him to death. This story, which we owe to Seneca (10:34), makes the artist, eager to study the effects of pain on the human face, into the murderer of his model (Overbeck, no.1703)." In the same work cited above, there are some additional references to similar stories regarding other, later sculptors, but none involving children. I hope this helps. Eileen Markson Eileen Markson Head, Rhys Carpenter Library for Art, Archaeology, and Cities Bryn Mawr College 101 N. Merion Avenue Bryn Mawr, PA 19010-2899 Phone: (610) 526-7910 FAX: (610) 526-7911 [log in to unmask]