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----------------------------Original message---------------------------- > I am forwarding the following summary of yesterday's lively meeting of > the CDG (ARLIS/NY) on behalf of Vickie Bohm of the Watson Library, > who, > along with other members of the Watson (Shawn Steidinger, I believe), > wins the award for shortest time taken to convert written notes to > digitally distributable form in CDG's history. > > Thanks Vickie (et al.). And thanks to Celine Palatsky and Emily Roth > and other Uris/Watson staff for hosting yesterday's meeting (and for > offering to host next month's meeting as well). > > > Danny Fermon > Assistant Librarian/Cataloging > Museum of Modern Art Library > [log in to unmask] > (212) 708-9434 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [log in to unmask] [SMTP:[log in to unmask]] > > Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 1998 9:44 AM > > To: [log in to unmask] > > Subject: minutes from NYCat. meeting 5/18/98 > > > > TO: Dan Fermon > > FROM: Vicky Bohm, Watson > > IN RE: could you send out this e-mail message to all those on your > > list, please > > > > > > MINUTES from the 5/18/98 New York Catalogers' Meeting > May > > 19, 1998 > > TAKEN BY: V. R. Bohm, Watson Library, The Metropolitan Museum of > Art > > Meeting held: Uris Con. Center, Met. Mus. of Art, 3:30-5:00 p.m. > > > > > > TOPIC: Headings for buildings > > > > Refer to e-mailed discussion paper of May 13, 1998 > > > > The discussion centered on how to establish NAF headings for > > buildings. The > > May 13 discussion paper provided a basic outline for problems and > > questions > > to be discussed. The actual discussion as follows: > > > > If a building is named, how is it named: officially, colloquially? > > By the > > architect or the firm? By the corporate body making use of the > > structure? > > Should the architect be a part of the heading, possibly in a > > cross-reference? > > (this question was not answered absolutely, though the majority > > of those > > present thought this would cause problems) > > Most present leaned toward the opinion that if the building had an > > official > > name, that should be the heading. > > Questions arose about name changes due to being bought and sold > > by corpor- > > ate bodies owning and/or using the structure, or by complete > > changes in > > function if the building is renovated for different use and > > renamed to > > reflect that change in function. > > Should the official heading be the most current name and designation > > of the > > building, even when the building is most known by and even > still > > referred > > to by its former name? > > Comparisons were made to name changes already in the NAF where > > history > > notes are used to clarify name/function/corporate changes and > > cross- > > references serve to allow finding the official current heading > > even if > > older or alternate forms are used to search. > > Again, questions arose concerning the name of a structure vs. > the > > corporate > > body or bodies making use of the structure. > > What should be done to clarify buildings with the same name in > > different cities, > > states, or countries, or buildings with the same name in the > same > > general > > location? > > Here, the only point agreed upon in general by the participants > > was to add > > location and/or dates (see LC rules already in place regarding > > location > > qualifiers) though questions arose regarding the parallel > problem > > of > > whether to use the most current political/geographic locations > > and names, > > as specified at the present by LC, or possibly the form > relating > > to the > > political/geographic situation at the time of construction or > > when the > > structure was given to name by which it is known. > > What form should the heading take? Most agreed that the vernacular > > language > > of the cataloging body at the time would probably be the most > > logical > > form, however, questions were raised about alternate forms in > the > > building > > has an official form, or is known regardless of national and > > linguistic > > boundaries by a name not in the vernacular of the cataloging > body > > (refer to > > H1334 in the LC Subject Cataloging manual) > > Time ran out before a discussion of what to do with parts of a > > building could > > be fully debated, including: actual parts of sections of any > one > > structure, > > buildings within another building, and several structures under > > an > > umbrella organization or corporate body. > > SUMMARY: Participants were urged to review exisiting LC policies > > regarding the > > formation of headings for buildings, what should be used, what > > might > > possibly be changed; also to review the ARLIS TOPICAL PAPERS > > I--Cataloging > > Architectural Drawings, to see if any ideas could be gleaned > from > > those > > specifications. > > > > The next meeting was tentatively set for June 22, again in the Uris > > Con. Cen. > > to continue the discussion on headings for buildings and to > take > > up the > > discussion about uniform titles for unnamed works of art.