----------------------------Original message---------------------------- I've done some brief quotes from replies to my query about outsourcing digital image capture and will tell you first about my investigations, for the Australian listeners ( and everyone who is interested !!!). I'm still weighing all the scenarios. _________________________________________ My investigations with KODAK in Australia seem very expensive. $19.95 per Photo CD ( 100 images per CD). $1.80 per Scan, no discount for bulk images as they say it is near cost now. (I don't have the money anyway!) $7.50 per image for colour corrected scan. ________________________________________________________________________________ For the 1600 images I envisage at the moment. ( 100 images per Photo CD). Cost $19.95 x 160 Photo CDs = $3192 1600 images X $1.80 = $1,880 _________________________________ Total Cost = $5,072 _________________________________ An extra $7.50 per image is charged for colour adjustment using Photoshop, which is necessary even when KODAK scans the images for you. _________________________________ Weigh this against in-house set up painted below. I think I will be saving money if my staff can adjust with Photoshop in 3 - 5 minutes. If I buy a Nikon SuperCoolScanner - Cost $3,159 Photoshop Upgrade - $450.00 Raid Controller (4MB ECC Sim)for Image Storage and Server - $$2887.00 (Live Picture for Zoom - $599 ???) Watermark Software???? ________________________________________________ Total Cost - $6,987 + ________________________________________________ The scanner scans 50 slides in 60 minutes. The RAID will save the need for Photo CDs, as it is a mirror backup/server in one. ( Cheaper to then store the images on optical magneto tapes than CD ROMs if archival image storage needed), however I am assured that the RAID does not fail in the backup stakes even if you are hit by lightening. For the cost of one project (1,600 images) with KODAK, I am set up with equipment to scan 16,000 images. If I need more room I buy more Simms for the RAID. I have the images sitting there waiting to be pulled out pronto from an image pool, not sitting on CD ROMs in storage. If someone wants to take the image out they can still download onto a magneto tape , or access through LAN network, or still take out the old trusty slide, after browsing the thumbnails/ full res scans on the LAN. AMERICAN STORY ________________________________________________________________________________ Rachel deals with competetive vendors which reduces cost to capture onto Photo CD and feels they do a better job than student/staff. Rachel Dvoretzky [log in to unmask] Slide Curator tel 713.527-4836 Art & Art History fax 713.527-4039 Rice University 6100 S. Main Houston, Texas 77005 **************************************************** "It is my opinion that if you can get your Photo CD scans for a dollar or less, you will save money because of the time involved in other types of manual scanning." Photo CD still has to be adjusted with photoshop but student help has narrowed margine to 3 minutes per slide. "in other words you can quickly tell that the whole disk is a little too magenta, for example." "I have been talking to the newdirector of RIT's photo management department about being able to offer cheapscans to VRA members. He was receptive, so we will see..." Reply-To: Visual Resources Association <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Visual Resources Association <[log in to unmask]> From: SUSAN JANE WILLIAMS <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Outsourcing Image Capture/ Excuse Duplication To: Multiple recipients of list VRA-L <[log in to unmask]> ******************************************* I don't know if Atlanta-to-Australia is too far, but this outfit has a full line of services and has provided good quality PhotoCDs for us: http://www.imagers.com/ Don Porter, [log in to unmask] Associate Director, Academic Computing Services Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, New York 12180 518-276-8163 voice 518-276-2185 fax ******************************************* "We have chosen to send slides out to Boston Photo Imaging to have them digitized on Photo CD. The quality has been very good. If there has been a problem it has been with the quality of the original slide. We have compared the cd version with one scanned on-campus using a slide scanner. The cd process compares favorably - and you have the image in 5 resolutions. It is costly, but one does not need a staff person to run the scanner. We use a large volume discount as well. I understand there is variability in the quality of the cd depending on whom you send your slides to. We are satisfied. We are also pleased with the speed. If I send 1000 slides out today I would have them back in 2 days. Susan Albright [log in to unmask] ******************************************************************************** Krist has done a number of small demonstration projects. "The trick I have been told, is to find a lab with a good technician, one who will understand not only the equipment, but who has a sense of the images too." "Also,you might want to contack Professor Michael Greenhalgh at ANU who has done some work on Web based access to CDs where he captures the images "on the fly". This technology might reduce the labor required for the middle step. " regards, Krist Bender URL: http://www.ruf.rice.edu/~krist/ *********************************** From: AUVAX::ROBERTSO 21-MAY-1996 15:29:08.05 To: MX%"[log in to unmask]" CC: ROBERTSO Subj: Summary-Photo CD's Dear VRAers, Last month I inquired the VRA listserver concerning the production of Photo CD's. I have compiled and posted this information for the list since many of you indeed wanted this information as well. As you will see in reviewing the list the prices vary a great deal. There could be considerable savings here for those institutions that are paying outrageous prices for this type of work. I hope this information will be beneficial for your imaging projects. Sincerely, Suzanne Ogden-Roberts [log in to unmask] NYS College of Ceramics at Alfred University Alfred, NY 14802 Business: Cost for disc Cost per slide scan Allied Photocolor Imaging $6.95 $1.50 4211 Forest Park Blvd. St. Louis, MO 63108 Firehouse Image Center $3.00 Indianapolis--assist in color calibration include Kodak color and gray scale in ea. slide Best Photo Lab $9.95 under 25 images $2.49 Brookfield, CT 25+ images $2.39 1-800-428-2377 100+ images $2.20 Druggal 100+ images $2.50 5 West 20th St. NYC, NY (212)242-7000 Campos Photography $10.00 under 100 images $2.00 Niagara Falls Blvd. 101+ images $1.00 (716)837-1016 ************************************************* ****************************************************************************** Jennifer Brasher EMAIL: [log in to unmask] Art Librarian VOICE: +61 (07) 3875 3132 FAX: +61 (07) 3875 3133 SNAIL MAIL Queensland College of Art Library Griffith University Clearview Terrace Morningside Campus PO Box 84 Morningside Brisbane Queensland 4170 Australia ****************************************************************************** A fine art library without slides is like a music library without audio tapes! ******************************************************************************