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Aloha Sam, We are about half way done with the automation project (in-house cataloging with OCLC metadata subscription) at HoMA and having the same 'wonder' who are those behind the orange triangle* !* We're one of them indeed, but getting ILL loan requests, not many but from libraries outside Hawaii. So, people can see us? Very confusing... - Sachi On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 10:41 AM Beth Goodrich < [log in to unmask]> wrote: > Sam, > > I feel your same frustration. Being relatively new to managing a library > cataloging system, I was quite confused as to why our holdings were not > showing up in WorldCat, even though we subscribe to OCLC cataloging > services. I was very dismayed to discover that there was an additional > subscription level to have our holdings appear, and we are in the same boat > as Amon Carter in that the additional subscription level is too much for us > to take on. I would be very interested in knowing if ARLIS/NA would have > any interest and/or sway in this issue, and would gladly lend my voice to > any type of appeal. > > *Beth Goodrich* > Librarian > [log in to unmask] > Direct: 612-206-3118 > > > > 1224 Marshall Street NE, Suite 200 > Minneapolis, MN 55413 > craftcouncil.org > > > > On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 1:57 PM Heather Slania < > [log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> Hi Sam, >> >> Agreed that it's egregious and monopolizing behavior, but unfortunately >> paying it is your only option to get your holding on it. Had to do it here >> and at my last job. >> >> Sorry for the bad news. >> >> Best, >> >> Heather >> >> >> *Heather Slania* >> Director >> Decker Library >> [image: MICA Logo] <https://www.mica.edu/> >> 1300 W Mount Royal Ave. >> Baltimore, MD 21217 >> 410.225.2311 >> . . >> Pronouns in use: she, her, hers >> >> Schedule a research consultation >> <https://calendly.com/libraryresearchconsultations> >> >> Schedule a meeting with me <https://calendly.com/hslania> >> [image: Instagram logo] >> <https://www.instagram.com/marylandinstitutecollegeofart/> [image: >> Snapchat logo] <https://www.snapchat.com/add/micastories> [image: >> Twitter logo] <http://www.twitter.com/mica> [image: Facebook logo] >> <http://www.facebook.com/mica.edu> [image: LinkedIn logo] >> <http://www.mica.edu/linkedin> [image: Behance logo] >> <http://portfolios.mica.edu/> [image: Medium logo] >> <https://medium.mica.edu/> [image: Youtube logo] >> <http://www.youtube.com/user/micamultimedia> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 1:40 PM Sam Duncan <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> >>> >>> Just sharing a concern of mine that goes way back having to do with >>> holdings listed on worlcat.org. Current OCLC policy does not allow a >>> library to have all its holdings listed on worldcat.org unless you are >>> a subscriber to WorldCat Discovery of Firstsearch (I believe that’s right). >>> For small-ish libraries like ours, a subscription is expensive, around >>> $2,500. I believe it’s a great disservice to our patrons and libraries. >>> Many specialized libraries like ours offer many unique holdings, and, >>> ironically, current OCLC policy allows a record to display with no holding >>> libraries listed (see attached screenshot). >>> >>> >>> >>> One OCLC representative wrote back when I addressed this concern, “I >>> understand you do not agree with the policy, but the Cataloging and >>> FirstSearch subscriptions are how we fund those services (along with >>> WorldCat.org). We try to keep them affordable for the majority, while >>> covering our costs, but it still does not work for everyone.” >>> >>> >>> >>> Here’s a great example. Keep in mind that if you’re associated with a >>> university library, you’ll probably see holdings. The problem is with cases >>> where a patron is searching at the local Starbucks down the street, for >>> example, or at home. >>> >>> >>> >>> https://www.worldcat.org/oclc/1123217295 >>> >>> >>> >>> I totally understand that there is a price tag associated with making >>> worldcat.org available, but it’s an egregious levy for a library to pay >>> to have its holdings masked and totally antithetical to what OCLC is >>> supposed to be doing for libraries (IMHO). When I have suggested a more >>> equitable pricing structure, there has been no interest in investigating it. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks for your feedback. More than anything, I need a reality check >>> from my colleagues. >>> >>> >>> >>> Sam >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *Samuel Duncan | Head of the Research Library* >>> >>> Amon Carter Museum of American Art >>> 3501 Camp Bowie Blvd., Fort Worth, TX 76107 >>> [log in to unmask] *|* 817.989.5042 >>> *cartermuseum.org <http://www.cartermuseum.org/>* >>> >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> Mail submissions to [log in to unmask] For information about >>> joining ARLIS/NA see: http://www.arlisna.org/membership/join-arlisna >>> Send administrative matters (file requests, subscription requests, etc) to >>> [log in to unmask] ARLIS-L Archives and subscription maintenance: >>> http://lsv.arlisna.org Questions may be addressed to list owner (Judy >>> Dyki) at: [log in to unmask] >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> Mail submissions to [log in to unmask] For information about >> joining ARLIS/NA see: http://www.arlisna.org/membership/join-arlisna >> Send administrative matters (file requests, subscription requests, etc) to >> [log in to unmask] ARLIS-L Archives and subscription maintenance: >> http://lsv.arlisna.org Questions may be addressed to list owner (Judy >> Dyki) at: [log in to unmask] >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Mail submissions to [log in to unmask] For information about joining > ARLIS/NA see: http://www.arlisna.org/membership/join-arlisna Send > administrative matters (file requests, subscription requests, etc) to > [log in to unmask] ARLIS-L Archives and subscription maintenance: > http://lsv.arlisna.org Questions may be addressed to list owner (Judy > Dyki) at: [log in to unmask] > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > -- Sachi F. Kawai'ae'a Head Librarian, Robert Allerton Art Library *Honolulu Museum of Art* *T*el 808.532.8754 *F*ax 808.681.7331 [log in to unmask] http://honolulumuseum.org/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mail submissions to [log in to unmask] For information about joining ARLIS/NA see: http://www.arlisna.org/membership/join-arlisna Send administrative matters (file requests, subscription requests, etc) to [log in to unmask] ARLIS-L Archives and subscription maintenance: http://lsv.arlisna.org Questions may be addressed to list owner (Judy Dyki) at: [log in to unmask] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~