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Try: The Book of Old Silver, by Seymour B. Wyler. Several editions since 1937. Best wishes, |))| Ellen Chapman |((| University of Hawaii at Manoa Library On Tue, 9 Sep 2014, Frechette, Mary wrote: > > Hi everyone – I’ve received this query from a researcher in Arkansas asking > about late 18th century silver pattern books and three specific tureens. I > have no particular expertise in this area, but I’m sure some of you do, or > know scholars/curators who do. Perhaps our collective wisdom can help him – > if you can, please either let me know, or respond directly to him and copy > me. > > > > Thanks so much, > > > > Suzy Frechette > > Head, Fine Arts Dept. > > St. Louis Public Library > > > > ********************* > > Hello, > > I am researching the design sources for an American silver soup tureen made > by Chaudron’s and Rasch in Philadelphia in 1811 (image attached) It is so > nearly identical to a tureen by the little-known French silversmith, Louis > Francois Delassus, made in Paris in 1787 (image also attached), as to raise > the possibility that they were both made to the same, possibly published, > design. > > A third, similar tureen, made in Paris in 1775 by Charles-Louis Auguste > Spriman (which you can find here), was brought to the United States from > Paris in early 1808 by James Bowdoin III. Thomas Jefferson had sent Bowdoin > to Europe in the diplomatic service and the Spriman tureen he brought back > may have influenced Jefferson’s choice when he ordered the tureens for the > White House later that same year. (These tureens vanished at the burning of > the White House in 1814.) In Jefferson’s order he specified: > > “Two silver tureens of the ordinary size and of the form numbered 1505 on > the drawing sent, being the uppermost of the two forms on the paper.” > > The 1775 Spriman tureen and the 1787 Delassus tureen are two of many known > examples of a style common in Paris between about 1760 and 1790, and would > have been familiar to Jefferson from his years as minister of the United > States to France from 1784 to 1789, when he was a popular dinner guest in > the great houses of Paris. Whereas, the Chaudron’s & Rasch tureen is, to > the best of my knowledge, a unique survivor in American silver. > > Simon Chaudron owned over four hundred volumes in French, and he and Rasch > are known to have worked from published French designs. While it may seem > like wishful thinking, it is possible that the “form numbered 1505”, > referred to by Jefferson, is also the design to which Chaudron’s & Rasch > were working. > > Are you aware of, or do you know of anyone who might to aware of, any > publication, probably from Paris between about 1760 and 1790, which > illustrates a tureen design similar to those shown in my attachments and > link? > > Thanking you in advance for your consideration on this matter. I remain > > > Respectfully yours, > > David Zimmermann > > [log in to unmask] ?? ? > > > > Mary Frechette > Senior Subject Specialist > Saint Louis Public Library > Central Library | Fine Arts > 1301 Olive St, St Louis MO, 63103 > [log in to unmask] | 314.539.0383 > www.slpl.org - tw - fb - p > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Mail submissions to [log in to unmask] For information about joining > ARLIS/NA see: http://www.arlisna.org/membership/join-arlisna Send > administrative matters (file requests, subscription requests, etc) to > [log in to unmask] ARLIS-L Archives and subscription maintenance: > http://lsv.arlisna.org Questions may be addressed to list owner (Judy Dyki) > at: [log in to unmask] > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mail submissions to [log in to unmask] For information about joining ARLIS/NA see: http://www.arlisna.org/membership/join-arlisna Send administrative matters (file requests, subscription requests, etc) to [log in to unmask] ARLIS-L Archives and subscription maintenance: http://lsv.arlisna.org Questions may be addressed to list owner (Judy Dyki) at: [log in to unmask] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~