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Hi All, This is my first time writing to this list, though I've been a reader for years. Last year, I chaired a committee for the History of Science Society which looked at the question of how NFS-type data management requirements would apply outside the sciences. I hope you'll find that it is relevant to this conversation, and I'd love to know what you think. Here's the direct link:http://hssonline.org/publications/Newsletter2013/October-data-management.html But I think it's easier to read in this PDF version of the HSS newsletter (p. 17): http://hssonline.org/publications/Newsletter2013/PDF/Oct2013-Newsletter.pdf Best, Daniel Goldstein Arts, Humanities and Social Sciences Librarian UCDavis ----- Original Message ----- > > > > Jenni: > > > > She’d never get funded by the NEH. It, in step with the NSF and > others, are requiring (or will soon) all data from sponsored > research to be posted openly. Even where it’s not required, it’s an > ethical stance that all numeric-data methodologies should adopt. > > > > I’m not certain all of the humanities are moving from an a priori to > an a posteriori model. Certainly anything that involves experimental > data should be independently reproducible, regardless of the > discipline. The critical point for the humanities moving in > empirical circles is to do what E. H. Gombrich (most famously for > art) espoused: Karl Popper’s empirical falsification . Broadly, one > part of proving any theory—especially hard-to-prove ones—is that the > opposite of your theory could not happen given your data. Those > arguments are still rare in art history. We as info people can > suggest that, too. > > > > Thanks, > > > > L > > > > > > From: ARLIS/NA List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of > Jenni M Rodda > Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 9:00 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [ARLIS-L] Journal Impact Factors > > > > > Colleagues-- > > > > > > This has been an interesting thread for me, since IFA, like many > other institutions, is moving forward with a number of digital > humanities/art history and "big data"-ish projects. One of our PhD > candidates is building 3-D models of 19th century exhibition spaces; > another is working with 3-D printing to recreate buildings that no > longer exist; still another is mapping funeral routes in Egypt using > a combination of GIS information and aerial views of a site. > > > > > > I would like to throw out an aside: If the humanities are now going > to use the tools of hard science, specifically data analysis, should > they be subject to the same strictures that define the sciences? > Specifically, should the results of a humanities data > analysis/"experiment" (if you will forgive me the extrapolation) be > required to be reproducable? One of our PhD candidates showed me > some beautiful graphs/visualizations of the data she has assembled > on a specific topic; she pointed out to me that, since she assembled > her own data, she isn't planning on necessarily sharing it any time > soon--which means (and she knows this) no one else will be able to > reproduce her "experiment," or her results. Perhaps rhetorically, > what does that say about her thesis, and the conclusions she draws > from her data analysis? > > > > > > Food for thought, I suppose. > > > > > > All best, > > > Jenni Rodda > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 5:10 PM, Lee Sorensen < [log in to unmask] > > wrote: > > > > Kathy’s comments are really worth underscoring—perhaps more > optimistically than presented. I’m in the process of launching an > analysis of visual resources/arts materials usage at Duke using both > conventional and non-conventional statistics in a big-data project. > This like project causes me to reflect. > > > > Humanities usage is so different than the natural science > disciplines—the ones for whom stats-driven assessment tools are > principally designed (and the disciplines from which many of our > administrators are drawn). One major factor is the length of > usefulness of our print and e-materials: sources more than five > years old are generally useless for the sciences and for the > humanities they’re just becoming incorporated in the literature. > Second, much citation literature is lexically driven. “Words in, > words out.” It’s harder to trace image use (or a performance piece > or architectural model—both of which might be variously titled). > Third, publishing venues, like an exhibition catalog essay, have no > equivalent in the science model and frequently don’t get noted in > impact tools. > > > > Most of this is known to this readership. What we shouldn’t do is > throw up our hands. Open-source and big-data software is allowing > the complicated tools—previously the jurisdiction of the hard > scientist—into the hands of the humanities manager too. Kudos to > Kathy for bringing our profound difference up. Let’s bring the > ‘difference engine’ into the rail yard along with the big freight > engines, too. > > > > > > Lee Sorensen > > Lilly Library > > Duke University > > > > > > From: ARLIS/NA List [mailto: [log in to unmask] ] On Behalf Of > Kathy Edwards > Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 4:35 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [ARLIS-L] Journal Impact Factors > > > > Neither Scopus nor JCR are of much use on this, I’m afraid, because > both pay little heed to the arts & humanities. Scopus is a bit more > inclusive but not enough to carry the question. > > In an informed universe, those who publish in the arts & humanities > should not be subjected to the same “quality assessment” gauges & > increments as scientists & social scientists, and it’s up to > departments and department chairs to fight that good fight with > their university administrations. And university administrations > with their accrediting organizations…I know, I know, not gonna > happen. > > But this is an old song…in the end, the response will more likely be > that arts & humanities devise their own JCR/Scopus-comparable > “difference engine,” soon but not today. > > > > Kathy Edwards > > Research & Collection Development Librarian > > Emery A. Gunnin Architecture Library > > Clemson University > > [log in to unmask] > > (864) 656-4289 > > CUsigIcon > > > > > > From: ARLIS/NA List [ mailto:[log in to unmask] ] On Behalf Of > Patricia Kosco Cossard > Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 3:24 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [ARLIS-L] Journal Impact Factors > > > > > > > Do you have a subscription to Scopus or World of Science? > > > > -- > > > Patricia Kosco Cossard, M.A., M.L.S. > > > Research Commons Librarian > > > Rm 4118 > > > McKeldin Library > > > University of Maryland > > > College Park, MD 20742 > > > P 301-405-6316 > > > > > > > > > From: <Craig>, "Susan V." < [log in to unmask] > > Reply-To: "Craig, Susan V." < [log in to unmask] > > Date: Monday, March 24, 2014 3:11 PM > To: " [log in to unmask] " < [log in to unmask] > > Subject: [ARLIS-L] Journal Impact Factors > > > > > > > I have been trying to answer a question from the chair of our > Architecture Dept. who would like me to provide her with a list of > scholarly architecture journals based on impact factor and/or h > index. I can supply the Core list of Architecture Journals from AASL > and I can find the impact factor or h/index for a few selected > architecture titles but I have not been able to locate a trustworthy > list of architecture journals that includes the impact factor. Does > anyone know of such a list? If not, is there something besides the > Core List that you would recommend to answer this question? > > > > Your suggestions would be appreciated. > > > > > > Susan Craig > Art & Architecture Librarian > Univ. of Kansas > [log in to unmask] > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Mail submissions to [log in to unmask] For information about > joining ARLIS/NA see: http://www.arlisna.org/join.html Send > administrative matters (file requests, subscription requests, etc) > to [log in to unmask] ARLIS-L Archives and subscription > maintenance: http://lsv.arlisna.org Questions may be addressed to > list owner (Judy Dyki) at: [log in to unmask] > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Mail submissions to [log in to unmask] For information about > joining ARLIS/NA see: http://www.arlisna.org/join.html Send > administrative matters (file requests, subscription requests, etc) > to [log in to unmask] ARLIS-L Archives and subscription > maintenance: http://lsv.arlisna.org Questions may be addressed to > list owner (Judy Dyki) at: [log in to unmask] > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Mail submissions to [log in to unmask] For information about > joining ARLIS/NA see: http://www.arlisna.org/join.html Send > administrative matters (file requests, subscription requests, etc) > to [log in to unmask] ARLIS-L Archives and subscription > maintenance: http://lsv.arlisna.org Questions may be addressed to > list owner (Judy Dyki) at: [log in to unmask] > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Mail submissions to [log in to unmask] For information about > joining ARLIS/NA see: http://www.arlisna.org/join.html Send > administrative matters (file requests, subscription requests, etc) > to [log in to unmask] ARLIS-L Archives and subscription > maintenance: http://lsv.arlisna.org Questions may be addressed to > list owner (Judy Dyki) at: [log in to unmask] > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > > > -- > Jenni Rodda, Manager > Digital Media Services and Image Archive > (formerly Visual Resources Collections) > Institute of Fine Arts > 1 East 78th Street > New York, NY 10075 > 212/992-5872 voice, 212/992-5807 fax > [log in to unmask] OR [log in to unmask] > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Mail submissions to [log in to unmask] For information about > joining ARLIS/NA see: http://www.arlisna.org/join.html Send > administrative matters (file requests, subscription requests, etc) > to [log in to unmask] ARLIS-L Archives and subscription > maintenance: http://lsv.arlisna.org Questions may be addressed to > list owner (Judy Dyki) at: [log in to unmask] > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Mail submissions to [log in to unmask] For information about > joining ARLIS/NA see: http://www.arlisna.org/join.html Send > administrative matters (file requests, subscription requests, etc) > to [log in to unmask] ARLIS-L Archives and subscription > maintenance: http://lsv.arlisna.org Questions may be addressed to > list owner (Judy Dyki) at: [log in to unmask] > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mail submissions to [log in to unmask] For information about joining ARLIS/NA see: http://www.arlisna.org/join.html Send administrative matters (file requests, subscription requests, etc) to [log in to unmask] ARLIS-L Archives and subscription maintenance: http://lsv.arlisna.org Questions may be addressed to list owner (Judy Dyki) at: [log in to unmask] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~