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This article just showed up in my email, from the CLIR(Council on Library and Information Resources) online newsletter…might be apropos.. http://www.clir.org/pubs/issues/issues95/issues95/#born-digital Anne From: David Grosz <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> Reply-To: David Grosz <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> Date: Thursday, October 31, 2013 12:19 PM To: ARLIS <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> Subject: Re: [ARLIS-L] e-only Catalogues Raisonnes As a publisher of digital-born catalogues raisonnés, I’ve followed this conversation with great interest. I want to be sure that you are all aware that we are also offering a resource for digital catalogues raisonnés. Artifex Press has both software and publishing programs. We are producing catalogues in-house and we are also licensing our software for outside use by museums, galleries, artist studios, estates, and archives. Our first two published digital catalogues raisonnés — Chuck Close: Paintings and Jim Dine: Sculpture — are available for free at artifexpress.com<http://artifexpress.com>. The question of how to catalogue such publications is a fascinating one and has been something we’ve wanted to address as well. We would welcome your input as to how a publisher like Artifex Press can help to make your cataloguing easier. Please feel free to contact me with suggestions at [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>. -- David Grosz | President/Managing Partner | Artifex Press | 32 East 57th Street, New York, NY 10022 | T: 212.872.1425 | M: 917.407.5615 | [log in to unmask] On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Annie Sollinger <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: I think it's also worth mentioning the Getty Online Scholarly Catalog initiative, which deals more with collection or exhibition catalogs, but still may be relevant: http://www.getty.edu/foundation/initiatives/current/osci/index.html Getty grants funded SFMOMA's Rauschenberg Research Project<http://www.sfmoma.org/explore/collection/project/rauschenberg_research_project>, which has a user guide for forming citations<http://www.sfmoma.org/explore/collection/project/rauschenberg_research_project/user_guide>, at least. That doesn't help with questions of collecting or cataloging, but perhaps indicates that the URLs and content are going to be stable enough for users to take seriously. Annie / / / / / Annie Sollinger Digital Image Metadata Librarian Image Collection Library UMass Amherst On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Emily Atwater <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: Hello, I would agree that the Frick is a good place to contact. Also, the Catalogues Raisonnes Scholar's Association has started to tackle this issue. They come from the researcher's perspective as opposed to the Librarian's, however a couple years ago they hosted a "mini-conference" on electronic catalogues raisonnes featuring some library and publishing representatives. The program for that event is available online and it may be worth reaching out to some of the speakers or the association: http://www.catalogueraisonne.org/CRSAminicon2011program.pdf Online CRs that are deemed authoritative (which is itself difficult to determine unless the artist or artist's estate is directly involved) often have to be dealt with on a case by case basis as there is no one-size-fits all format or delivery method. Many are websites or online databases, sometimes with login credentials required, which obviously presents challenges when cataloging for library access. Long story short, without standardized procedures for the creation, maintenance, and cataloging of these resources, it's tricky... Best, Emily (Brooklyn Museum Library) On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Bill Cole <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: Exclusively online catalogues raisonnés are, in my opinion, huge lawsuits waiting to happen. For prints, maybe; for drawings or paintings, forget it. Unlike bibliographies, catalogues raisonnés are not merely convenient repositories of information: including a work in a catalogue raisonné unequivocally declares it to be authentic. I realize that many works featured in traditional (i.e., printed) catalogues raisonnés have, over the years, been shown to be fakes--people will always be human, after all. And in those cases the reputation of the compiler (and thus of his/her scholarship) is diminished. So there is a clear incentive to get it right the first time. What do you think will happen when a rich Wall Streeter buys a $5 million painting, relying on a catalogue raisonné entry on the Podunk University website--and then three years later finds that the entry has been deleted? I don't know the answer to this question, but I sure wouldn't want to be one of Podunk U.'s lawyers. Best Bill Cole Cole & Contreras Books / Sylvan Cole Gallery > > >> >> On Oct 29, 2013, at 12:13 PM, Amy E Lucker <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: >> >>> Hi folks, >>> we here at NYU are starting to think about how to deal with e-only >>> catalogues >>> raisonnes. Has anyone out there come up with a plan for how to collect, >>> catalog, and disseminate these resources? If so, please share. >>> >>> thanks so much, >>> Amy >>> ************************************* >>> Amy Lucker >>> Head, Institute of Fine Arts Library Acting Head, >>> Library >>> New York University AND Institute for the >>> Study of the Ancient World >>> James B. 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