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As a publisher of digital-born catalogues raisonnés, I’ve followed this conversation with great interest. I want to be sure that you are all aware that we are also offering a resource for digital catalogues raisonnés. Artifex Press has both software and publishing programs. We are producing catalogues in-house and we are also licensing our software for outside use by museums, galleries, artist studios, estates, and archives. Our first two published digital catalogues raisonnés — *Chuck Close: Paintings* and *Jim Dine: Sculpture* — are available for free at artifexpress.com. The question of how to catalogue such publications is a fascinating one and has been something we’ve wanted to address as well. We would welcome your input as to how a publisher like Artifex Press can help to make your cataloguing easier. Please feel free to contact me with suggestions at [log in to unmask] -- *David Grosz | President/Managing Partner | **Artifex Press | 32 East 57th Street, New York, NY 10022 | T: 212.872.1425 | **M: 917.407.5615 **| ** [log in to unmask] * On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Annie Sollinger <[log in to unmask]>wrote: > I think it's also worth mentioning the Getty Online Scholarly Catalog > initiative, which deals more with collection or exhibition catalogs, but > still may be relevant: > http://www.getty.edu/foundation/initiatives/current/osci/index.html > > Getty grants funded SFMOMA's Rauschenberg Research Project<http://www.sfmoma.org/explore/collection/project/rauschenberg_research_project>, > which has a user guide for forming citations<http://www.sfmoma.org/explore/collection/project/rauschenberg_research_project/user_guide>, > at least. > > That doesn't help with questions of collecting or cataloging, but perhaps > indicates that the URLs and content are going to be stable enough for users > to take seriously. > > Annie > > > > / / / / / > > Annie Sollinger > > Digital Image Metadata Librarian > > Image Collection Library > > UMass Amherst > > > > > On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Emily Atwater <[log in to unmask]>wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I would agree that the Frick is a good place to contact. Also, the >> Catalogues Raisonnes Scholar's Association has started to tackle this >> issue. They come from the researcher's perspective as opposed to the >> Librarian's, however a couple years ago they hosted a "mini-conference" on >> electronic catalogues raisonnes featuring some library and publishing >> representatives. The program for that event is available online and it may >> be worth reaching out to some of the speakers or the association: >> http://www.catalogueraisonne.org/CRSAminicon2011program.pdf >> >> Online CRs that are deemed authoritative (which is itself difficult to >> determine unless the artist or artist's estate is directly involved) often >> have to be dealt with on a case by case basis as there is no one-size-fits >> all format or delivery method. Many are websites or online >> databases, sometimes with login credentials required, which obviously >> presents challenges when cataloging for library access. >> >> Long story short, without standardized procedures for the creation, >> maintenance, and cataloging of these resources, it's tricky... >> >> Best, >> Emily (Brooklyn Museum Library) >> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Bill Cole <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >>> Exclusively online catalogues raisonnés are, in my opinion, huge >>> lawsuits waiting to happen. >>> >>> For prints, maybe; for drawings or paintings, forget it. >>> >>> Unlike bibliographies, catalogues raisonnés are not merely convenient >>> repositories of information: including a work in a catalogue raisonné >>> unequivocally declares it to be authentic. >>> >>> I realize that many works featured in traditional (i.e., printed) >>> catalogues raisonnés have, over the years, been shown to be fakes--people >>> will always be human, after all. And in those cases the reputation of >>> the >>> compiler (and thus of his/her scholarship) is diminished. So there is a >>> clear incentive to get it right the first time. >>> >>> What do you think will happen when a rich Wall Streeter buys a $5 >>> million painting, relying on a catalogue raisonné entry on the Podunk >>> University website--and then three years later finds that the entry has >>> been >>> deleted? >>> >>> I don't know the answer to this question, but I sure wouldn't want >>> to be >>> one of Podunk U.'s lawyers. >>> >>> >>> Best >>> >>> Bill Cole >>> Cole & Contreras Books / Sylvan Cole Gallery >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > >>> > >>> >> >>> >> On Oct 29, 2013, at 12:13 PM, Amy E Lucker <[log in to unmask]> >>> wrote: >>> >> >>> >>> Hi folks, >>> >>> we here at NYU are starting to think about how to deal with e-only >>> >>> catalogues >>> >>> raisonnes. Has anyone out there come up with a plan for how to >>> collect, >>> >>> catalog, and disseminate these resources? 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