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There is something somewhat sophismatic about the suggestion that we fight exclusion by excluding the excluders. A conundrum Mr. Spock might use to melt down a mechanical mind gone astray. It reminds me a bit of Groucho vowing never to belong to a club that would admit him as a member. I do believ, however, that we should exclude from library organizations and conference exhibits certain parasitic malefactors like Elsevier, but that's another matter. Thomas Hill On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Eric Wolf <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Thanks so much for your very thoughtful response here Joan. I agree > with you wholeheartedly. I think we should make it as clear as possible > that we are an inclusive organization, one which would actually like to be > much more diverse than we are. But the idea that we would wish to exclude > anyone based on what they do outside of our organization would seem to go > against our core value of inclusion and offering a service to all in the > profession of art librarianship. Further, I am somewhat appalled by the > idea that someone would be doing research on potential members’ other > memberships and affiliations. While I share the original poster’s dislike > of exclusionary/discriminatory organizations, I also think that part of > diversity in an organization is allowing people with widely differing > experiences and backgrounds to participate, so long as what they bring to > our organization is in line with our mission and core values. Particularly > these days where our privacy is being challenged on all sides by both > online service providers and the NSA, I would like ARLIS to still be a > place that honors our (ever more limited) privacy rights.**** > > ** ** > > All best,**** > > ** ** > > Eric**** > > ** ** > > *Eric M. Wolf* > > *Head Librarian* > > *The Menil Collection* > > *1511 Branard Street* > > *Houston, TX 77006* > > *(713) 525-9426* > > *[log in to unmask]* > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *From:* ARLIS/NA List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] *On Behalf Of *Joan > Benedetti > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 28, 2013 1:52 PM > > *To:* [log in to unmask] > *Subject:* Re: [ARLIS-L] anniversary**** > > ** ** > > This whole conversation makes me very uncomfortable. As anyone that knows > my history with the organization knows, a major theme of my actvities with > ARLIS has been INclusion, more inclusion, not less. I not only think that > the suggestions put forward, though well-meaning, would be impossible to > enforce, I think they would be counter to the basic principles of this > professional organization. And, though it may seem a bit over-the-top to > say so--I think this type of exclusion is un-American! We offer multiple > platforms, both formal and informal, to air our opinions about just about > everything related to art librarianship. We are a small enough > organization that if a person's behavior or points of view are truly > repugnant, we can make it clear in many ways that those behaviors or > expressions are not welcome--and we can, by the same token, make it clear > what behaviors or opinions are most welcome. But to exclude, *a priori*--on > what basis?--people from membership just seems wrong.**** > > **** > > Joan Benedetti**** > > ----- Original Message ----- **** > > *From:* Heidi Rempel <[log in to unmask]> ** ** > > *To:* [log in to unmask] **** > > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 28, 2013 12:24 PM**** > > *Subject:* Re: [ARLIS-L] anniversary**** > > ** ** > > While I, personally, dislike the idea of clubs that admit only men, I feel > like that qualifier alone could be a problematic definition by which to > gauge suitability for membership. After all, as a graduate of a Seven > Sisters college that has chosen not to go co-ed, I would feel rather > hypocritical about insisting that a private entity should not decide > inclusion/exclusion based on gender alone. Yes, I know there are > historical differences in the debate about privilege regarding men-only > institutions and women-only institutions but still, it seems like it could > be a problematic issue. Are gender-specific organizations necessarily > hate-based? I would argue that no, they are not, even when I, personally, > feel uncomfortable with the exclusion of women from prestigious men-only > clubs. **** > > I certainly think ARLIS should consider, if it doesn't already do so, > defining itself as a safe and inclusive organization and insisting on its > meeting places (online and in-person) adhering to those standards. I do > think, however, that we would need to think about where we would draw the > line at banning people from joining but especially WHY we would draw the > line. **** > > > -- **** > > *Heidi J. Rempel*, MA MSLIS**** > > Special Projects Manager > Seattle Chamber of Commerce**** > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Mail submissions to [log in to unmask] For information about joining > ARLIS/NA see: http://www.arlisna.org/join.html Send administrative > matters (file requests, subscription requests, etc) to > [log in to unmask] ARLIS-L Archives and subscription maintenance: > http://lsv.arlisna.org Questions may be addressed to list owner (Judy > Dyki) at: [log in to unmask] > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ **** > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Mail submissions to [log in to unmask] For information about joining > ARLIS/NA see: http://www.arlisna.org/join.html Send administrative > matters (file requests, subscription requests, etc) to > [log in to unmask] ARLIS-L Archives and subscription maintenance: > http://lsv.arlisna.org Questions may be addressed to list owner (Judy > Dyki) at: [log in to unmask] > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ **** > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Mail submissions to [log in to unmask] For information about joining > ARLIS/NA see: http://www.arlisna.org/join.html Send administrative > matters (file requests, subscription requests, etc) to > [log in to unmask] ARLIS-L Archives and subscription maintenance: > http://lsv.arlisna.org Questions may be addressed to list owner (Judy > Dyki) at: [log in to unmask] > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > -- Thomas E. Hill Art Librarian, Vassar College [log in to unmask] 845.437.5791 http://artlibrary.vassar.edu http://library-cafe.org VC Art Library on Facebook: http://facebook.com/VassarArtLibrary T. Hill Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/ThomasEHill ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mail submissions to [log in to unmask] For information about joining ARLIS/NA see: http://www.arlisna.org/join.html Send administrative matters (file requests, subscription requests, etc) to [log in to unmask] ARLIS-L Archives and subscription maintenance: http://lsv.arlisna.org Questions may be addressed to list owner (Judy Dyki) at: [log in to unmask] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~