Thank you to Min Xu for her added comments. I am sorry I overlooked this in my earlier email. What she states is very true and a very good point to realize. Please note---there are many such 'Quanji = 全集' and they are all quite good and of the highest level of scholarship, as well as displaying the entire range of an artist or group of artists such as studies on the 8 eccentric masters of Yangzhou (扬州八怪全集), however, most of these studies are not truly comprehensive compilations but comprehensive surveys of an artist's entire oeuvre. Some of them come close, but one should be careful about thinking of this term ('Quanji = 全集') as the equivalent of a true catalogue raisonne. This term is also used for surveys of types of art works such as the recently published 16 volume work on ceramics unearthed in archaeological excavations (Zhongguo Chutu Ciqi Quanji=中国出 土瓷器全集) or the huge series on all art works produced in China (Zhongguo Meishu Quanji = 中国美术全集), nevertheless, these surveys, though thorough and comprehensive are not inclusive of everything.....there is no way that they could be....the amount of works is far too overwhelming. One still must realize that the concept of a complete works/'Quanji = 全集' sort of collection is an entirely modern construct in China. John Stucky, MA, MLIS Museum Librarian C. Laan Chun Library Center, Asian Art Museum 200 Larkin Street San Francisco, California 94102 415.581.3692 (Fax) 415.861.2388 [log in to unmask] www.asianart.org/library.htm "PEOPLE WHO ARE WITHOUT CREATIVITY BUILD DEAD INSTITUTIONS." ----J. Krishnamurti NOW on view: BEYOND GOLDEN CLOUDS: JAPANESE SCREENS FROM THE ART INSTITUTE OF CHICAGO AND THE SAINT LOUIS ART MUSEUM October 15, 2010 - January 16, 2011 COLLECTOR'S CHOICE/COLLECTOR'S VOICE October 15, 2010 - March 13, 2011 Coming next: BALI: ART, RITUAL, PERFORMANCE February 25 - September 11, 2011 "Starr, Daniel" <Daniel.Starr@MET MUSEUM.ORG> To Sent by: ARLIS/NA [log in to unmask] List cc <[log in to unmask] SNA.ORG> Subject [ARLIS-L] Catalogues raisonnes on Chinese artists 12/10/2010 08:51 AM Please respond to "Starr, Daniel" <Daniel.Starr@MET MUSEUM.ORG> I’m posting the following on behalf of Min Xu, our CJK Librarian. ******************************** Daniel Starr Associate Chief Librarian Thomas J. Watson Library The Metropolitan Museum of Art 1000 Fifth Avenue New York, NY 10028 Dear colleagues, The other partial answer could be that the East Asian library field never paid attention to the subdivision "catalogues raisonnes". I’ve almost never seen a Chinese record with "catalogues raisonnes" in its subject headings. Only the subdivision “Catalogs” is used. But there are quite some works of this nature on the famous Chinese artists, like Huang Binhong quan ji 黃賓虹全集 10 vols; Wu Guanzhong quan ji吳冠中全集 9 vols; Fu Baoshi quan ji傅抱石全集 6 vols; Xu Beihong hui hua quan ji徐悲鴻繪畫全集; Ren Bonian quan ji任伯年全集; and Wang Xizhi shu fa quan ji王羲之書法全集, etc. The word “quan ji 全集” means complete works, and it could be applied to any discipline, not only to art catalogues. I’ll post on the East Asian Library listserv about this, so Chinese catalogers may discuss and start using this subdivision "catalogues raisonnes" for complete works on Chinese artists, as more and more such works will be published in the future. Thank you very much for bringing up and discussing this issue. Best regards, Min Min Xu Associate Museum Librarian Thomas J. Watson Library The Metropolitan Museum of Art 1000 Fifth Avenue New York, New York 10028-0198 Tel:212-650-2437 Fax:212-570-3847 [log in to unmask] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mail submissions to [log in to unmask] For information about joining ARLIS/NA see: http://www.arlisna.org/join.html Send administrative matters (file requests, subscription requests, etc) to [log in to unmask] ARLIS-L Archives and subscription maintenance: http://lsv.arlisna.org Questions may be addressed to list owner (Judy Dyki) at: [log in to unmask] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mail submissions to [log in to unmask] For information about joining ARLIS/NA see: http://www.arlisna.org/join.html Send administrative matters (file requests, subscription requests, etc) to [log in to unmask] ARLIS-L Archives and subscription maintenance: http://lsv.arlisna.org Questions may be addressed to list owner (Judy Dyki) at: [log in to unmask] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~