Below is a comment from our Chinese Electronic Resources Cataloger that may be of interest.
Leslie
Hi Leslie,
John has very interesting perspectives. I am not familiar with the Chinese art publications, but have seen quite a few catalogues raisonnes for famous Chinese artists before.
The way American catalogers use the subdivisions for catalogues raisonnes may be another “partial answer.” My observation:
· American Art libraries tend to use this specific form heading, Catalogues raisonnes more often than other regular libraries.
· Many resources in this category in regular libraries have been assigned under the artist alone or followed by the generic subdivision, “Catalogs” instead of the specific one, “Catalogues raisonnes.”
Because of the practices mentioned above, the searches under “catalogues raisonnes” yield minimal results. As to a vernacular term, one may try to search by combining the title phrase ‘全集’ (literally means comprehensive collections, but may or may not be in-depth reviews) with an artist’s name. I tested it in WorldCat and some records from the search result seemed to describe the catalogues raisonnes for that particular artist although “catalogues raisonnes” was not used as a form heading in those records.
Please feel free to post my thoughts to the ARLIS-L list if they make sense to you.
Bie-hwa
Bie-hwa Chen Ma
Chinese Electronic Resources Cataloging Librarian
Shared Cataloging Program Unit
Systemwide Collection Services
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With John's permission, I forward his (slightly edited) excellent response.
PPB
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Hi Peter--
I can give you a partial answer, but, I think, a pretty good one. There
has never been a precedent in China or among scholars of Chinese culture,
to create catalog raisonne for a particular artist. This is a purely
Western and relatively modern construct. I do think that in a few years,
as the major post-Tiananmen artists mature, you will begin to see more such
comprehensive studies. Most of these artists are still a bit too early in
their careers, though, to warrant a comprehensive examination or review.
Some of course, will need such attention eventually. There have been
excellent studies on such major figures as Ai Weiwei or Xu Bing, Gu Wenda,
Cai Guoqiang, Zhan Wang and others, though these are certainly not
comprehensive overviews. Of course, the older 20th century masters like Qi
Baishi, Wu Changshuo, Pan Tianshou, Huang Binhong and Zhang Daqian are well
overdue for such studies, though major and fairly comprehensive works have
been done on them, there is still no catalog raisonne. One possible cause
of this may be that their work is so scattered, and largely in relatively
inaccessible collections....but I suspect tradition has a lot more to do
with it. ...
Traditionally artists, scholar painters especially, as befitting Confucian
custom, were only discussed in the context of other painters, history and
tradition, and, especially past masters. Your library has several
wonderful 17th to early 19th century texts on painting and painters that
are typical of this traditional type of Confucian approach to art history
that emerged at the end of the Ming. ...
...
John Stucky, MA, MLIS
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Greetings Smart People,
Can anyone explain why the LCSH convention of "catalogues raisonnes"
does not apply to Chinese artists?
In WorldCat, "Catalogues raisonnes" as a subject search, limited by
language "Chinese" yields minimal results (19). But the same search,
limiting to English, French, or German brings back thousands of hits.
What gives? Is there a vernacular term (e.g., Werkverzeichnis) that
corresponds and can be used when searching?
Many thanks for any insight/tips.
Cheers,
Peter
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