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Re: [ARLIS-L] art doc cover
I strongly agree with both Trudy and Jenny: get a professional designer to develop a new design, which also follows through to the interior for a complete identity program. Let the Board or publication committee decide. This doesn't need to be society-wide consensus. We use professionals for the conference program cover, why wouldn't we do this for the professional journal of the Society?

If you want photographs switched each issue for variety (and this certainly should be discussed with the editors first as to the viability of doing it), a set typographic template can be designed to accommodate that. We do exactly this for the Visual Resources Association Bulletin cover. However, keep in mind that new images need to be found, cleared, and often paid for each issue. Most rights holders, however, are more than willing to reduce rates or offer the images free-of-charge for a non-profit organization and for the publicity.

John

I don't think Jenny was being difficult.  This was very well said and I would second the idea of having a professional design the cover.  This is our professional publication, possibly the ONLY thing many people see of us.  Wasn't there a time when we were thinking about the "branding" of ARLIS/NA and bringing some coordination to our publications-print and electronic?
 
 
Trudy Jacoby
Director, Visual Resources Collection
Department of Art and Archaeology
Princeton University
207 McCormick Hall
Princeton, NJ 08544-1018

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From: ART LIBRARIES SOCIETY DISCUSSION LIST [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Tobias, Jennifer
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 10:32 AM
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Subject: Re: [ARLIS-L] art doc cover
 
but just to be difficult:
 
it's a given that there's never universal consensus on art or design. with the exception of some artists' books every form of publication you buy for your library is designed. it's not a fine arts exercise and it's not direct democracy. usually for good reason.
 
you could commission artists for each cover but still, you probably want a standard masthead, publication statement, etc. also you have to administrate it, you may not get consistent quality, and it it seems to me like another way of not taking the profession(s) seriously. are you going to compensate them in "prestige"? or if you pay, commissioning an artist for each issue is way more expensive than hiring a designer once.
 
if you want variety, there are many ways of varying each cover without starting from scratch each time. that's what designers do: figure things like that out.
 
one final thought: now I regret suggesting that it be farmed out to a class. it's not a business issue because classes also get compensated in "prestige." it could benefit the student's portfolio, but it doesn't support institutions.
 
again, would you give arlis contracts to a law students? have a volunteer manage arlis's IT? again, be professional and hire a pro. jeez, it doesn't even cost that much.
 
Jenny Tobias
MoMA Library
 
From: Kathy [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 4:14 PM
Subject: art doc cover
 
Hi all,
 
Sorry for my creative typing on another posting..I meant "transfer" not transference from Z'house collection!
 
As to the Art Doc cover art, I just wanted to add my 3 cents to the mix. While, I appreciate art schools, museums and colleges professing various philosophies about good and bad art/design; art is subjective and some of the most interesting art is made outside institutions or art personalities.  Hiring a professional graphic artist or asking a class to tackle a problem is good business for those supporting their organizations but, isn't a guarantee that everyone will like the same design for the cover.  Also, many art library professionals are artists in their own right.  I like the idea of changing cover art with each issue (if affordable), maybe themes that mirror the content or trends in our profession.
 
--Kathy Ritter
 
 
 
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