Hi Jonathan, I guess these little surprises will be common to us all soon enough. McMann's index was digitized by Google under their Google Book Search project. I don't think there is any way to know from the search interface, from which library the original volume was digitized. It is important to note that this title is still under copyright so Google does not offer a "full text" version, but a preview that allows something like 20 pages viewed. Some searches for artists will only bring up a notice that the entry resides on a certain page but access is restricted, in other words, it is not part of the preview. I am not sure how you might handle this in a catalogue record as the book preview is not really the full-text of the book, but just a sampling. I know this doesn't answer a lot. Best, Kraig Kraig Binkowski Head Librarian Reference Library and Photograph Archive Yale Center for British Art 1080 Chapel Street P.O. Box 208280 New Haven, CT 06520-8280 Phone: 203.432.2846 Fax: 203.432.7180 Email: [log in to unmask] http://www.yale.edu/ycba At 09:13 AM 11/26/2007, you wrote: >Please can someone who knows more about Google Books than I do offer advice? > >One of my colleagues just discovered that a core reference work >which we use frequently - Evelyn de R. McMann's Biographical index >of artists in Canada (University of Toronto Press, 2003) - now >appears on the web in a full-text scanned version. > >Obviously, I haven't been living under a rock, so I know that books >are being digitised left, right and centre as we speak, but I am >finding it hard to discern from the online version just who >digitized it (Google? Amazon? University of Toronto?). > >Part of my reason for asking is that we have recently acquired the >copyright on Colin S. MacDonald's unfinished Dictionary of Canadian >Artists (8 vols; Ottawa: Canadian Paperbacks, 1967-), and are >looking at options for digitisation. > >A supplementary question: if we want to record (in a catalogue entry >or a bibliography or whatever) a citation of the online version for >McMann's Biographical index, what exactly is the url, preferably a >permanent one, that we can give? I know I can get back to it via ><http://books.google.com/books?id=1CFofvCmeZIC&pg=PR3&dq=evelyn+mcmann+biographical&sig=fBVt6y3EOL8tIr9bsTLFJLNxEB0>http://books.google.com/books?id=1CFofvCmeZIC&pg=PR3&dq=evelyn+mcmann+biographical&sig=fBVt6y3EOL8tIr9bsTLFJLNxEB0#PPP1,M1 >but is there some neater way? > >Thanks in advance > >Jonathan > >Jonathan Franklin >Chief, Library, Archives and Research Fellowships Program >National Gallery of Canada >380 Sussex Drive >PO Box 427, Station A >Ottawa, Ontario >K1N 9N4 >Canada >telephone (613) 990 0590 >fax (613) 990 6190 >email [log in to unmask] > >__________________________________________________________________ >Mail submissions to [log in to unmask] For information about >joining ARLIS/NA see: http://www.arlisna.org/join.html Send >administrative matters (file requests, subscription requests, etc) >to [log in to unmask] ARLIS-L Archives and subscription >maintenance: http://lsv.uky.edu/archives/arlis-l.html Questions may >be addressed to list owner (Judy Dyki) at: [log in to unmask] __________________________________________________________________ Mail submissions to [log in to unmask] For information about joining ARLIS/NA see: http://www.arlisna.org/join.html Send administrative matters (file requests, subscription requests, etc) to [log in to unmask] ARLIS-L Archives and subscription maintenance: http://lsv.uky.edu/archives/arlis-l.html Questions may be addressed to list owner (Judy Dyki) at: [log in to unmask]