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If the publisher does not make the images available, then the faculty
are justified in their need for all the images in the text, and exactly
the images in the text.  It really is almost impossible to teach without
them, even though the students all have the textbook.  They also need
them in a very timely fashion, i.e. well before classes start.
Publishers may still offer free set of slides, often of dubious quality,
to faculty, but those will be of little use to faculty wishing to teach
digitally.

I believe that Libraries, in general, are not used to having to produce
large volumes of images in the very tight timeframes that are required
to support daily classroom teaching, as the average art history course
needs something between 600 and 1000 images.  Nor are they used to
collections of surrogate images needed for didactic purposes, rather
than archival image collections.  The content of didactic collections
needs to be determined by faculty: specific images for specific teaching
purposes.  If such images are a) used for face to face teaching, b) of
moderate quality, and c) password or otherwise protected for use only by
your faculty and students, they fall within the fair use practices
followed by most academic institutions who provide teaching images
collections for their own constituents.

Commercial image sets, while desirable and certainly of better quality
than what can be produced by scanning from a textbook, do not always
match EXACTLY, or provide the diagrams, maps, and other didactic
materials faculty may need.   They augment the lesser quality, but
Exact, in-house images.  You could institute a policy that you will
provide what the faculty need, in the timeframe they need it, but will
actively undertake to replace those images with commercially licensed
images when that is possible.  

An alternative, however, would be to work with the slide collection to
secure adequate equipment, software, staffing, and server space for them
to undertake this type of didactically necessary - but non-archival,
image production, and let the library concentrate on licensing
commercially available content.  


Eileen Fry
Indiana University



-----Original Message-----
From: ART LIBRARIES SOCIETY DISCUSSION LIST [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of Piper Martin
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 11:28 AM
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Subject: Re: [ARLIS-L] image copyright question

Thanks to all who have responded so far.  I was remiss in not mentioning
that the textbook in questions, The Art of Seeing, does not have an
accompanying CD of images produced by the publisher.  We have put in a
request to the publisher, but they have not gotten back to us yet.

Piper 


----- Original Message -----
From: "Fry, P. Eileen" <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 11:18 am
Subject: RE: [ARLIS-L] image copyright question
To: Piper Martin <[log in to unmask]>, [log in to unmask]

> While almost all of us in the academic image world have to balance
> teaching needs with fair use and vendor rights, the specific case you
> bring up is one that should no longer be such a problem. For 
> decades, we
> did have to slavishly produce slides of every single image, map, 
> graph,and timeline in the standard art history and art appreciation 
> surveytexts to support classroom teaching.  It was a huge, 
> expensive chore,
> due to the frequent new editions, but an absolutely essential one.  
> 
> Now, however, many publishers of basic art history textbooks supply
> faculty who adopt their textbooks with complete sets of images, and
> generic PowerPoints, on CDs for teaching purposes.  Unless the
> department has adopted a more obscure textbook, there is no longer a
> need for a slide collection or VRC to provide this service. Faculty
> should contact their publisher's representatives and ask for these 
> CDs.
> What you should be doing, instead, is investing in high-quality
> commercial digital image sets that can be delivered to the entire 
> campusto provide additional images for the surveys and to support a 
> wide range
> of other disciplines.  Many of our digital vendors offer sets for any
> number of survey texts.  
> 
> Eileen Fry
> Indiana University
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ART LIBRARIES SOCIETY DISCUSSION LIST [mailto:ARLIS-
> [log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Piper Martin
> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 4:40 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [ARLIS-L] image copyright question
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I am new to this list, so I hope I am asking an appropriate 
> question.  I
> work at a university library as the liaison to the art & art history
> department.  We have a new digital services department, which will
> eventually be heading up our institutional repository, but in the
> meantime they are involved in various scanning projects for faculty
> members and units on campus.  We were approached by the person who 
> worksin the art department's slide library over in the arts 
> building to have
> all of the images in an introductory art history textbook scanned and
> put on individual CDs for each faculty member who teaches the class
> using this textbook.  Both I and the head of digital services (an
> archivist by training) were quite uncomfortable with this request, and
> we told the the person from the slide library that we did not think 
> thiswould be OK as far as copyright was concerned.  She informed us 
> that she
> made slides from all the images in the textbook; additionally, the art
> history f
> aculty members were surprised and rather dismayed by our attitude--
> theyacted like we were paranoid.  We want to have good relations 
> with the
> department, but we don't want to participate in a potentially 
> dangerousproject.  We have searched our databases and the free 
> internet, but we
> have not been able to come up with any helpful information.  Has 
> anyoneon this list encountered a similar situation?  Many thanks in 
> advance.
> Piper Martin 
> 
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