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Helen,
I was intrigued to hear of your efforts with Margaret DePopolo to 
enrich the references in your catalog at MIT. While LC is more open to 
headings and references these days than they were 25 or 30 years ago, 
there are still guidelines that preclude some of the noun-adjective 
combinations that you or I or our users might come up with.

You may have heard of the FAST Project at OCLC -- 
http://www.oclc.org/research/projects/fast/ -- I can't remember if it's 
been mentioned in this thread on ARLIS-L or not. It does show 
significant promise but is still pretty closely linked to the 
terminology.

The use of folksonomy or social tagging in conjunction with controlled 
vocabulary is pretty exciting. I'm putting together a panel for Atlanta 
addressing the junction of social tagging and controlled vocabularies 
which I hope will have plenty of time for discussion.

Sherman Clarke
NYU Libraries
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----- Original Message -----
From: Helen Chillman <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Thursday, October 5, 2006 5:11 pm
Subject: Re: [ARLIS-L] Folksonomy

> What interests me about folksonomy (which always sounds like 
> something by 
> Pete Seeger) is that in a way it shows how far the structured LC 
> headings 
> are from the way users actually search for or think about [art].  
> I worked 
> with Margaret DePopolo of MIT when she was still at Yale as she 
> put 
> hundreds of x-refs into our card catalog, from the terms used by 
> REAL city 
> planners to the terms used by LC, because our architecture and 
> planning 
> clients couldn't deal with LC's 19th-century mindset.
> 
> The folksonomy terms can get pretty far out and personal, and 
> obviously, 
> like Wiki, are subject to mis-use or mis-definition, with no 
> master list 
> or rules. In a way they're like the keyword lists some groups of 
> us were 
> trying to agree on for searching terms back when VRMS was around, 
> each of 
> us had a preference (term, format, etc.).  But I suspect 
> interactive 
> museum programs would/could/should take note of this user-based 
> approach.
> Just thoughts,
> Helen Chillman
> Yale University
> 
> 
> On Tue, 3 Oct 2006, [log in to unmask] wrote:
> 
> > I have no direct experience, but I too would interested to hear 
> from anyone who does.  On the one hand, it seems like a cheap way 
> for museums to get subject terms applied to works of art in their 
> collections (either all of them, or some of them - the most 
> popular ones).  On the other, I gather that academics are using 
> social tagging to share research papers, etc, held in digital 
> repositories.  Is there any overlap in these two applications of 
> folksonomy with implications for museum library practice?
> >
> > Jonathan
> >
> > Jonathan Franklin
> > Head of Collections and Database Management, Library
> > National Gallery of Canada
> > 380 Sussex Drive
> > PO Box 427, Station A
> > Ottawa, Ontario
> > K1N 9N4
> > Canada
> > telephone (613) 990 0590
> > fax (613) 990 6190
> > email [log in to unmask]
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ART LIBRARIES SOCIETY DISCUSSION LIST [mailto:ARLIS-
> [log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Ursula Kolmstetter
> > Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 12:23 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: [ARLIS-L] Folksonomy
> >
> >
> > Dear Arlis/NA friends,
> > What is the general thinking of folksonomy, which is a form of 
> mostly unstructured, user created metadata? Some museums started 
> using folksonomy (see: steve.museum project). I wondered if 
> anybody has experiences with it.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Ursula Kolmstetter
> >
> > Ursula Kolmstetter
> > Head Librarian, Stout Library
> > Tel.: 317-920-2662, ext. 225
> > Fax: 317-926-8931
> > e-mail: [log in to unmask]
> > 4000 Michigan Road, Indianapolis, IN  46208-3326
> >
> > IMA  It's My Art
> > Indianapolis Museum of Art
> > Virginia B. Fairbanks Art & Nature Park
> > Oldfields-Lilly House & Gardens
> >

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