Thanks to everyone for the responses to the Albers question I posted. I'll let the responses speak for themselves. Someone did ask about the status of the Albers CD-ROM that was published over 10 years ago. A representative at Yale press told me the old CD-ROM should work on the Macintosh. It's not necessary to install software first using the floppy disk. I haven't tried it yet. Has anyone had any luck? The Yale representative also mentioned there was some talk about reissuing a new CD-ROM but he didn't know if it would happen or not. I don't know anything about plans to publish a new print edition (or facsimile). Here are the responses. Thanks again! And if I get more answers I'll post more. Nina ---------- Years ago, we at the [name] Museum of Art fabricated some very crude sleeves that plates would fit into, thus minimizing handling wear. The Mylar and acid-free board were cut larger that the plate/open folder and stapled together on three sides. The instructor was the only person allowed to transfer the individual plates into sleeves and had to wear gloves. We also required that the volume be used within the Library. We made about a dozen sleeves, as most of the use was comparing and contrasting two folders. Interestingly enough, we have had no request for use in many years, so the volume is not getting worn, even from slipping the folders into the sleeves. ---------- This exact same question has come up here. Studio artists love this book. I did let one instructor use it in the studio with much trepidation. It came back fine but I don't know if I can do it again. I would love to hear the responses. ----------- We have it also. We keep it in Special Collections. When classes come to see it, we require a library staffer to be with the faculty and students while the book is being shown. Our Special Collections isn't really like an archive, but we are trying to protect the book for future students. Studio/ Color Theory classes are the ones who view it every semester. --------- We keep ours in Special Collections. I use it for classes and allow access in our Special Collections reading room. It is one of the very few items we require the use of cotton gloves. --------- from a bookseller: First of all, you should of course be concerned about losing any folders from Albers' Interaction of Color; however, this should have always been a concern since you first acquired it, as this set has always been valuable, even when initially published at a list price of $1250 I believe. I sold my last set at $3500 ten years ago. As far as the single folder listed at $1000, that should not be taken seriously, as it will never sell, and is simply one bookseller's grasping at straws because he probably acquired an incomplete set and is trying somehow to compensate for his mistake. Art students at Yale have long used the set in the classroom and I recall once seeing individual plates mounted on display for study purposes. What you need to do is ensure that the set be signed out only to a faculty member (or for inspection only to a student, under supervision, and not to leave the library). The borrower should be asked to sign a statement requiring reimbursement to the school for full replacement value if not returned complete. --------- We had the same problem--when I saw prints from an original copy, like ours, on display in an exhibit at [name deleted], I almost had a heart attack. Now ours is kept in our slide library, where NO one uses it..Ridiculous. We had one studio prof who used it in her class, but it made me so nervous, her taking one or two sheets out of a folder....that is when I put it in the slide lib. I have no locked cases or spec coll section. I have considered sending the whole thing over to our main lib special collections, and if faculty want to show it, they will have to take the whole class over to their reading room. ------------ Can you treat it like in-class library instruction and accompany it to the studio? That way you could keep an eye on it. You could also play up the idea of having students use the digital Albers instead. Just a thought. ----------- We have it in our branch Special Collection area (locked cage) from where users can request it and then use it at a table next to the Circ. desk where desk clerks can keep an eye on Special Collection users. When a class needs to see it as a group, I take it to the class and show if off to the students, and it gives me a chance to discuss how to handle special collection materials, explain about the excercises and the printing of the plates, and participate in the instruction with the faculty member. A nice way to collaborate! ------------ from: Henri, Janine Jacqueline. "Management, Public Service, and Access Issues: Serving Special Collections in an Architecture Branch Library." Journal of library administration 39.1 (2003):57-76. "Although we do not have a group study room in the Architecture and Planning Library, there is a seminar room in the building that I have been able to reserve when a faculty member has asked about showing specific items to their classes. Students in architecture history courses have examined early builder's guides this way, and folios of nineteenth century plates of landscape views have been shown to students in an art history course dealing with the picturesque. At least once a year for the last few years I have taken Josef Albers' Interaction of Color to a class of interior design students that meets in another building on campus. Of course, during each classroom presentation I can say a few words about our special collections and how to access them. Besides promoting the use of special collection materials, these services to classes have also facilitated more cooperation between library staff and faculty and have resulted in an increase in librarian consultations by students from these classes. As a result of these interactions I believe that once students are aware of the extent and potential usefulness of our special collections, they are more willing to learn the subject searching intricacies needed to locate relevant records in our catalog." -------------- At [our college] we have two copies of the Albers set. Both are kept in the locked "Cage" or special collections storage area within our library, where all materials are for library-use only. For individuals requesting to use materials we hold their ID card and require that they sit at a designated table next to the Reference desk. One Albers set is complete, and we have so far kept it that way by restricting it to in-house use by faculty only, or for student group viewing overseen by a faculty member. I.e., faculty teaching the color courses make appointments to bring their classes to the library for a viewing. Students are not allowed to use the complete set on their own - at all. Fortunately, we have sufficient seating within the library that a class of 15-20 students can gather around a few tables pushed together for a presentation like this. The second set that we have is incomplete, following years of use. It is available for students to use on their own, though I've recently heard comments that the "good" parts are missing. Our conservation/book repair person has just completed a treatment for both sets, replacing the original (acidic) interleaving with archival slip sheets. At that time, she took several steps to assist in keeping the sets intact through continued use: - numbered the leaves lightly in pencil, since one challenge we have is that the faculty have not tended to keep the leaves in order (it was hard to do, since the numbering is in Roman Numerals). - counted the number of items in each set and place a checklist in the front of each slip case. Now when the Reference Librarians serve the sets to a patron (faculty for a class presentation, or student, etc. for an individual viewing) they can count the number of items upon delivery and return. I hope this is helpful. Obviously, the situation here was not well controlled for a number of years since we lost many pieces, but since we started out with two sets, we are lucky to still have one complete set and a secure storage area in proximity to our reading room - and can accommodate the occasional class group within the library. I'm wondering whether this item is due to be re-issued - would probably still be quite costly! But if the supply were renewed, libraries without a copy would have a better chance of getting one. Maybe Yale University could get it done? It obviously has unique and continuing pedagogical value. ----------- I would be very interested in seeing what kind of replies you get. Our Special Collections in the university library has a copy of the original edition and they were quite interested when I called over with your estimate of the current price. Also, do you have any information on the CD that Yale produced around 1994? Do you know if it's been updated -- my faculty gave up trying to use it some years ago. ----------- I know this sounds excessive, but we have two copies of the Albers: one for classroom and study use, and the second for archival use. When I arrived at [university] (25 years ago) we had one copy, and it was well used. I decided to take a huge financial leap and purchase another copy that had become available in the market. I have never regretted it. The volume is used so often by so many, which is as it should be, and for most purposes the well-used copy satisfies users. We reserve the pristine copy for special presentations, etc. The color theory faculty are thrilled with this, and the students seem very satisfied. I realize that most librarians don't have an extra $6,000 at their disposal, however you might lobby your Friends of the Libraries group to make this a special project or challenge (perhaps one of your faculty could give them a presentation about the importance of the publication and why it is so important to have a clean and complete copy), or if you have a donor or several donors with special interest in your library you might approach them with the idea. ------------ Have you thought of using digital images from it in place of the original? If the color is corrected to be accurate to the individual prints, they should suffice for classroom use and would then be available to the students outside the class via computer. --------------- Our museum has a large studio school and we opted for the simple solution -- acquiring one of the reprint (Yale UP 1975) for general use. The original is stored as a rare book, doesn't leave the library, and is used under supervision. It helps to have an added incentive -- we exhibit rare books in the galleries whenever an opportunity presents itself, so our users understand the imperative to protect them. Hope this is useful --------- On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 12:17:56 -0700 Nina K Stephenson <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > No, this isn't an offer of a free duplicate to share! > :-) > > We're trying to figure out how to protect yet provide >access to the original edition of Albers' classic color >study (Yale, 1963). We've discovered that the set is now >selling for upwards of $6,000. One vendor is selling one >folder from the set for $1,000. We're already missing a >few plates. One faculty member has asked to use the set >in the classroom this semester for a color class. Even >using it for in-library consultation is problematic >because we don't have a secure special collections type >reading room. Transfering it to our special collections >library would severely limit access by studio artists, >let alone his color class. > > Any ideas or strategies to share??? I can compile >responses and share with the group if there is interest. > > Nina > > *~+~*^*~+~*^*~+~*^*~+~*^*~+~*^*~+~*^*~+~*^*~+~* > Nina Stephenson, Art & Photography Librarian & > Collection Development Manager >Fine Arts Library MSC05 3020 > 1 University of New Mexico > Albuquerque, NM 87131-0001 USA > ph: (505) 277-0679 email: [log in to unmask] > > __________________________________________________________________ > Mail submissions to [log in to unmask] >For information about joining ARLIS/NA see: > http://www.arlisna.org/join.html > Send administrative matters (file requests, subscription >requests, etc) > to [log in to unmask] > ARLIS-L Archives and subscription maintenance: > http://lsv.uky.edu/archives/arlis-l.html > Questions may be addressed to list owner (Judy Dyki) at: >[log in to unmask] *~+~*^*~+~*^*~+~*^*~+~*^*~+~*^*~+~*^*~+~*^*~+~* Nina Stephenson, Art & Photography Librarian & Collection Development Manager Fine Arts Library MSC05 3020 1 University of New Mexico Albuquerque, NM 87131-0001 USA ph: (505) 277-0679 email: [log in to unmask] __________________________________________________________________ Mail submissions to [log in to unmask] For information about joining ARLIS/NA see: http://www.arlisna.org/join.html Send administrative matters (file requests, subscription requests, etc) to [log in to unmask] ARLIS-L Archives and subscription maintenance: http://lsv.uky.edu/archives/arlis-l.html Questions may be addressed to list owner (Judy Dyki) at: [log in to unmask]