> I'm forwarding the following on behalf of Erin Elliott (Bard Graduate
> Center):
>
>
>
> ARLIS/NY Catalogers Discussion Group Meeting Minutes
> February 11, 2002
> Hosted by the Bard Graduate Center
>
> Attendees:
> Danny Fermon, MOMA; Cynthia Wolff, MOMA; Deborah Perotti, MoMA; Daniel
> Biddle, IFA/NYU; John Maier, IFA/NYU; Deirdre Donohue, International
> Center of Photography; Mark Bresnan, Frick Art Reference Library; Eric
> Wolf, Frick Art Reference Library; Rodica L. Preda, Frick Art Reference
> Library; Patricia Siska, Frick Art Reference Library; Sherman Clarke, NYU;
> Steven Cohen, Pratt; Deborah Perotti; Erin Elliott, Bard Graduate Center;
> Vicky Bohm, Watson Library; Melanie Wacker, Watson Library; Oleg Kreymer,
> Watson Library; Beth Kushner, Brooklyn Museum; Sarah Osborne, Morgan
> Library; Maria Oldal, Morgan Library; Liz O'Keefe, Morgan Library; Peter
> Gammie, Morgan Library; Heidi Hass, Morgan Library; Morgan Library;
> Claudia Hill, Columbia University; Gladys Markoff-Sotomayor, Columbia
> University; Zimra Panitz, Whitney Museum
>
>
> 1) Classification and reclassification at MOMA
> * Background: MOMA currently has 2 systems, a Dewey derived system
> and a shelve by size/acquisition system.
> * The current systems are proving inadequate (very long call numbers)
> and further problems are expected as a result of the expansion project
> where approximately 60% of the books will be offsite.
> * Arguments in favor of shelving by size:
> * Better protection for the books
> * No subject analysis required to shelve the books
> * Maximizes space
> * There haven't been many complaints from curators regarding the
> classification/shelving system.
> * MOMA is considering assigning 2 call numbers so books may be shelved
> in both on and off site stacks (Danny distributed 2 handouts: a LC
> catalogue record and a MOMA Voyager record).
> * The Met is reclassifying to LC prospectively only.
> * Vicky noted that many RLIN records have 050 LC numbers and at Watson
> they kept the 050 field and assigned their call number in the 090 field.
> * Danny asked what the advantages of using LC would be, Sherman noted
> that most big libraries use LC and as most RLIN records have LC call
> numbers, it requires little training.
> * Claudia brought up the fact that Columbia, Princeton, NYPL and NYU
> will have off-site storage perhaps with similar issues to MOMA's .
> * Sherman said that NYU offsite books will get an LC-style call number
> and a bin number in the holdings section. The LC number will be the only
> visible number for patrons.
>
> 1) URL Maintenance
> * Eric asked if one can use the name of a website rather than the URL.
> He has been cataloguing exhibition catalogues with websites that are, by
> nature, ephemeral - he has been using the website for additional
> information for the bib record.
> * Sherman said that authority record guidelines give the name of the
> site.
> * There has been ALA discussion about adding $u to 670, could tell a
> link checker to check 670 $u's.
> * In general there is no push to have links monitored and updated,
> more a citation than an active link.
> * Claudia said that Columbia always uses links and Maria suggested
> including the site name and date and asked if you should change URL's.
> Sherman said no, new URL's should be added rather than updating old ones.
>
>
> 1) ARLIS/NA
> * Mtgs of interest
>
> * Cataloguing advisory meeting is open to all and always looking for
> topics. Liz mentioned that this is a good venue to bring up issues with
> MARC, LC, AACR2 - they have been successful in the past in lobbying LC to
> make changes.
> * ARLIS/NA cataloguing meeting Sunday 8h-10h
> * Seminars on Monday: Cataloguing African art, Stretching the Mold
> (artists books, facsimiles, auction catalogues), Common Ground
> * Serials round table and Negotiating Power On-line (serials)
> * Common Ground - sharing vocabularies, Friday evening
>
> * Topics for discussion/questions
> * Claudia and Gloria mentioned that more art and architecture scope
> notes would be useful for terms like "print", "etching" and "engraving".
> Scope notes would help for terms with many nuances
> * Eric asked Danny how far MOMA goes with AAT terms in the 655 field.
> Danny said that they use them if the item could potentially be used as an
> artifact and to identify particular collections (i.e. sound recordings,
> CD-ROM's)
> * Eric said that he has been having difficulty cataloguing 1900's
> futurist manifestoes. He has been using 655's when there is no
> appropriate LCSH subdivision. $vSpecimens and $vFacsimiles were suggested
> as possible LCSH subdivisions.
> * Liz questioned whether it is a good idea to use AAT when most of a
> collection has lots of examples of genre in old format
> * Sherman said that LC is more robust and would rather submit subject
> proposals.
> * Vicky mentioned that CCA uses 654/653's with very long strings. The
> Met and NYU usually keep these fields but Sherman questioned the
> searchability of the fields.
>
>
> 1) ALA Midwinter
> * Sherman has posted reports from ALA Midwinter (Jan., 2002, New
> Orleans) on his website at:
> <http://artcataloging.net/alagen.html>
>
>
> 1) Open Discussion
> * Documenting Visual Culture VRA Bulletin (special 2002)
> Interested contributors should submit proposals by March 1st
> * Many people were having access problems with LC catalogue site.
> Sherman said that LC has 250 ports for the web and 250 for Z3950, may be a
> "port hogging" issue
> * Cataloguing/Reference position available at the Met
> * Frick has reopened their search for an electronic resources
> librarian
> * March 15th is the NYTSL Spring Reception
> * May 10th is the NYTSL Spring Dinner
>
> 1) Next Meeting
> * Rpts from ARLIS/NA conference
> * Monday, April 8th at the Met
>
>
>
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