Registration is fine when the library has had an opportunity to work 
with faculty and students, but in a large academic, as opposed to 
departmental, library setting, there simply are not enough 
opportunities. Left to their own devices, I think they could be 
frustrated.  Libraries are moving to a more user-friendly, Googlesque 
environment, e.g., Primo. ARTstor seems to be going in the other 
direction.

Ruth Thomas, BU


Quoting "Stylianopoulos, Louann (lws4n)" <[log in to unmask]>:

> I have also been interested in the discussions swirling around the 
> ARTstor change and agree with Trudy's well reasoned statement.  Image 
> management is a growing service in the Fine Arts Library here at UVA 
> and we routinely teach users to register as part of both scheduled 
> and impromptu service in the library.  Our marketing of ARTstor last 
> year resulted in it being one of the five most used databases at UVA, 
> being in such stellar company as JSTOR and Web of Science.
>
> Just recently, we obtained use statistics from ARTstor that allowed 
> us to breakdown that use on grounds based on registered users and 
> image groups.  We found that ARTstor and our hosted collection were 
> used all over grounds with a large portion of the users being 
> undergrads from other disciplines.  Those statistics helped us argue 
> successfully for the funding of the new Shared Shelf module at a 
> university-level.  Libraries often fund ARTstor and they will 
> increasingly need the proof to maintain any database purchase.  I see 
> the new required registration as a plus and a help to beleaguered Art 
> libraries and Visual Resource departments trying to hold onto their 
> funding.
>
> But, we should explore these issues from every angle.
>
> Thanks,
> -- Lucie
>
> Lucie Wall Stylianopoulos
> Head, Fiske Kimball Fine Arts Library
> Art, Archaeology, & Classics Librarian
> University of Virginia
> Bayly Drive Box 400131
> Charlottesville, VA 22904
> 434-924-6604
> [log in to unmask]
>
>
> From: Trudy Jacoby <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
> Reply-To: Trudy Jacoby <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
> Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 12:51:20 +0000
> To: <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
> Subject: [ARLIS-L] ARTstor change of terms
>
> Just to voice a different viewpoint-I find that it takes very little 
> time and effort to show people how to register, or for that matter, 
> how to download an image, make a group, save a detail, or export to 
> PowerPoint.  Having some statistics on who is using ARTstor will 
> actually be useful to me.  That could be because I am part of a 
> department, not part of the library, so being able to document the 
> use of ARTstor by users outside of Art History is of interest.
>
> I must note that some of my most enthusiastic new users have been 
> retired faculty.   Registration has always been necessary in order to 
> save groups, export to PowerPoint (which I encourage people to do 
> rather than downloading single images) or access ARTstor from off 
> campus, so I have always encouraged people to register and to use 
> simple passwords.  Users who have forgotten their passwords receive 
> it in an email almost instantly.
>
> So, considering all of the things of which I have  been critical, 
> this has not appeared to be such a terrible thing to me.
> I follow this discussion with interest and will monitor the use 
> statistics to see if usage changes.
>
> Best,
> Trudy
>
> Trudy Jacoby
> Director, Visual Resources Collection
> Department of Art and Archaeology, 207 McCormick Hall
> Princeton University
> Princeton, NJ 08544-1018
> http://www.princeton.edu/visualresources/
> 609-258-5853
>
> From: ARLIS/NA List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of 
> Henri, Janine
>
> I concur with Martha and would support an official society response.  
> This new registration requirement will also lengthen the time it 
> takes us to demonstrate the procedure to our users at the reference 
> desk, or to explain the procedure when answering queries over the 
> telephone and by e-mail.  Many of my image queries come from one-time 
> or infrequent users.  Requiring these users to register to make full 
> use of a database that is not their primary source of information 
> will likely turn them away from reaching out to the library for this 
> kind of research.  And not just the Google kids, the old retired 
> professor technophobes that can’t remember passwords will likely also 
> give up in exasperation.
> Best,
>
> Janine Henri
> Architecture, Design, and Digital Services Librarian
> UCLA Arts Library
> 1400 Public Affairs Building
> Box 951392
> Los Angeles, CA 90095-1392
>
> [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> office: 310-206-4587
> fax: 310-825-1303
>
> From: ARLIS/NA List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of 
> Gonzalez Palacios, Martha P
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> Not to be redundant, but I need to add my utter disappointment with 
> this new hurdle.  I really don't understand the logic behind it; it 
> doesn't seem to be the way to collect data.  If it was for extra 
> features it would be one thing, but to simply download images it 
> seems a bad move.
>
> I am wondering if ARLIS/NA and/or VRA could put together a formal 
> appeal to ARTstor to reconsider this change.  I really believe that 
> requiring users to log in will seriously impact the amount of use 
> this resource will get.  Sure, avid users will continue to do so, but 
> it will be much harder to convert all those google kids.
>
> mar
> ......................................................................
> Martha González Palacios, Librarian
> Architecture and Planning Library
> University of Texas Libraries
> The University of Texas at Austin
> PO Box P (BTL200  S5430)
> Austin, TX  78713-8916
> phone: 512.495.4645
> [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> http://www.lib.utexas.edu/apl
> ......................................................................
>
> On Sep 1, 2011, at 11:09 AM, Greg Wallace wrote:
>
> Yes, this new login requirement is a real drag and I'm afraid it's 
> going to deter people from using ARTstor. We'll see what happens with 
> the usage stats.
>
> Greg Wallace, Ph.D.
> Public Services Librarian—Reference and Instruction
> Massachusetts College of Art and Design
> 621 Huntington Avenue
> Boston, MA 02115
> 401.527.6833 (mobile)
> 617.879.7108 (office)
>
> From: "Tobias, Jennifer" 
> <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
> Reply-To: "Tobias, Jennifer" 
> <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
> Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 12:01:17 -0400
> To: "[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>" 
> <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
> Subject: Re: [ARLIS-L] ARTstor change of terms
>
> just to complain some more, so far i've only been able to intuit my 
> way to exporting to power point. not cool.
>
> for my crowd, to embrace artstor it's gotta be as close as humanly 
> possible to Right Click and Save As a jpg.
>
> Jennifer "Right Click" Tobias
> MoMA Library
>
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